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<Sigma88> genes
<Sigma88> for example
<Sigma88> the students this year extracted RNA from muscle, and analyzed the expression of certain genes
<Sigma88> they had a network of connections, but they didn't know which the relationship were
<Sigma88> and analyzing the expression they should understand how they interact
<Sigma88> it's very simplified, for students, the important part is that they understand the reasoning behind
<Sigma88> what's your background in biology?
<GregroxMun> My last biology class was a basic class in Freshman year of High School.
<GregroxMun> So that was four years ago
<GregroxMun> HOLY CRAP THAT WAS FOUR YEARS AGO.
<GregroxMun> Wait no
<GregroxMun> three
<GregroxMun> but still
<Sigma88> so you went through 3 years of highschool with absolutely no biology?
<GregroxMun> no
<GregroxMun> I had one Biology class
<GregroxMun> Actually yeah no I see what you mean.
<Sigma88> yes, 3 years ago, right?
<GregroxMun> Let me check for a moment
<Sigma88> lol ok
<GregroxMun> I somehow confused myself
<GregroxMun> My biology class was in spring semester 2014.
<GregroxMun> I just finished spring semester 2017
<GregroxMun> So three years ago was my last and only biology class
<Sigma88> I guess you don't have thematic schools right?
<GregroxMun> what's that?
<Sigma88> in italy highschool classes are mandatory
<Sigma88> you cannot choose what class to follow
<Sigma88> but you can go to different types of highschools
<GregroxMun> I go to a high school within a community college.
<GregroxMun> So the high school classes aren't very varied.
<GregroxMun> and when they are the students don't get *much* autonomy in choosing them, but they are chosen by the staff on their behalf.
<GregroxMun> But they do get to choose their college classes
<GregroxMun> But we do have sort of what you're talking about.
<Sigma88> but it's not like your school is a literary school right?
<GregroxMun> right
<Sigma88> for example, I went to a science and technology school
<GregroxMun> Normal schools teach more or less the same classes, with some emphasis for some schools having better classes in one regard than another.
<GregroxMun> So you can go to Penn Griffin, an art school, and get the same classes as your brother at Southern.
<GregroxMun> Southern is a generic school.
<GregroxMun> But the art classes at PG will be better quality.
<Sigma88> so I studied more physics, chemistry, biology, math and coding
<Sigma88> yes I heard that in the us you don't have the kind of division we have here
<GregroxMun> GTCC EMC does put some emphasis on STEM more than Art, but not overtly. (Only because we don't have art-based electives)
<Sigma88> elective?
<Sigma88> wait, I'm more interested in what that biology class was about
<GregroxMun> It's what we call classes like Drawing, Theatre, Music etc.
<Sigma88> ah so the hippy classes :D
<GregroxMun> Biology was about ecosystems, basic anatomy, and basic concepts of evolution and stuff.
<GregroxMun> I don't remember that well.
<GregroxMun> It's basically "you're probs not gonna have another biology class unless you take one at the college level so here's everything but not in detail."
<GregroxMun> The class that usually comes before it is Earth Environmental
<GregroxMun> Which also touches on evolution and stuff, but also the history of the Earth and ecosystems and the atmosphere and stuff.
<GregroxMun> But my teacher for those classes was insane!
<Sigma88> yes that's pretty close to biology
<GregroxMun> One of the thing he said was that the continents are going to get further apart forever, never recombining.
<GregroxMun> But, you know, I said, the Earth isn't growing.
<Sigma88> exosystems is definitely biology, not the kind of biology I do, but still biology
<GregroxMun> yeah.
<Sigma88> lol
<GregroxMun> I think Ecosystems was either only in Biology or it was in the last part of Earth Environmental as a transition.
<Sigma88> you silly, earth is not growing
<GregroxMun> that's what I told him.
<Sigma88> that's exactly why continents can go on forever getting away from each other
<Sigma88> clearly they will fall off the edge at some point
<GregroxMun> lol
<Sigma88> but the chem-trails will have gotten us all much earlier than that
<GregroxMun> Of course I live in the American southern "Bible Belt" of very conservative christians. So most of my class in biology were "critical" of evolution.
<GregroxMun> And I used to be a "militant atheist"
<GregroxMun> God I hate younger me.
<GregroxMun> here he is.
<Sigma88> lol
<Sigma88> most atheists manage to really annoy me
<GregroxMun> same
<GregroxMun> I mean
<GregroxMun> I am an atheist, not an agnostic, for most intents and purposes.
<GregroxMun> But I still find most atheists annoying.
<GregroxMun> Really I find people that talk about religion aside from academic purposes anoying, and so I shall stop.
<Sigma88> I have to go anyways
<Sigma88> night
<GregroxMun> o/
<Sigma88> 0/
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<SigmaVCE> 0/
<SigmaVCE> !wa titan atmosphere altitude
<Qboid> SigmaVCE: Seems that Wolfram is unable to understand that.
<SigmaVCE> !wa titan atmosphere height
<Qboid> SigmaVCE: Seems that Wolfram is unable to understand that.
<SigmaVCE> !wa titan atmosphere scale height
<Qboid> SigmaVCE: Titan | average diameter | atmospheric layers | altitude | digital scales | height: Titan | average diameter | 5151 km (kilometers), atmospheric layers | altitude | (1700 to 140000) km (kilometers), digital scales | height | 5.08 cm (centimeters)
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<SigmaPlane> ✈
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<GregroxMun> I may have to crowd-source science definitions for Revamped Stock Solar System.
<GregroxMun> I just can't find the inspiration and the energy to write science definitions anymore.
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<GregroxMun> Sigma88: could you do a calendar mod that would accurately reproduce the Gregorian calendar but without being customizable? It would be absolutely terrific for Real Solar System.
<GregroxMun> SigmaPlane
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<SigmaUK> 0/
<SigmaUK> GregroxMun rss already has that
<GregroxMun> since when?
<SigmaUK> It's part of ksp-ro
<SigmaUK> !g ksp-ro time
<Qboid> SigmaUK: https://github.com/KSP-RO/RP-0 [GitHub - KSP-RO/RP-0: Realistic Progression Zero - The lightweight ...] (20000 results found, took 0.45s)
<GregroxMun> oh
<SigmaUK> !g rsstimeformatter
<Qboid> SigmaUK: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/139335-ksp-113-rss-datetime-formatter-v10/ [[KSP 1.1.3] RSS DateTime Formatter v1.0 - Add-on Releases ...] (3 results found, took 0.13s)
<SigmaUK> That
<GregroxMun> Huh. No way to set the calendar date at epoch.
<GregroxMun> So your calendar mod is customizable, right Sigma?
<GregroxMun> i could change the months and stuff?
<GregroxMun> anyway I'm ready to try it and I no longer have the link.
<GregroxMun> SigmaUK
<SigmaUK> Let me see if I can get it back
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<Sigma88> I'm on my phone
<Sigma88> Give me a sec
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<SigmaUK> GregroxMun pmd you
<GregroxMun> did you say it doesn't work if Kopernicus is installed?
<SigmaUK> Yup
<SigmaUK> Idk why
<GregroxMun> Does Kopernicus support hiding the orbit lines of objects such as stars?
<SigmaUK> Yes
<SigmaUK> GN uses that
<SigmaUK> Stupid bus is late
<GregroxMun> thanks
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<GregroxMun> o/
<SigmaUK> Finally
<SigmaUK> Half an hour late
<SigmaUK> 0/ thomas
<GregroxMun> I legit can not remember what the name of that game that came out and disappointed everyone was. The space game where you explore space and land on procedurally generated planets that have life and stuff.
<GregroxMun> I really can not remember what it's called
<GregroxMun> NO MANS SKY
<GregroxMun> THat's the one
<GregroxMun> ok
<GregroxMun> nvm
<Thomas> I got it for my birthday, started it, it crashed at the loading scene and I never touched it again
<GregroxMun> oh lord
<GregroxMun> what an awful game.
* Thomas goes and yells at sigmas code
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<SigmaUK> Thomas, I did notice the default thing
<SigmaUK> Problem is, it wasn't working
<SigmaUK> And I was using the apply/postapply to check that the stuff was loading (adding logspam)
<SigmaUK> I didn't know it could work without
<GregroxMun> You know, the Procyon system is a bit like the Sirius system.
<GregroxMun> Both are more massive than the sun, both have white dwarf companions.
<GregroxMun> But Procyon is less massive than Sirius.
<GregroxMun> Both stars are the brightest in their constellation, and here's the kicker: Sirius is Alpha Canis Majoris, Procyon is Alpha Canis Minoris.
<GregroxMun> It's the Doggo Star and the Pupper Star.
<Thomas> SigmaUK: Whats the problem with using {H} directly? (instead of using <H> and transforming it)
<Thomas> SigmaUK: The reason I am asking is, that I want to prevent allocating memory, since the formatters run every frame
<Thomas> The whole replacement stuff creates a new string every time
<SigmaUK> Ksp doesn't load it
<SigmaUK> The {
<SigmaUK> And }
<SigmaUK> Thomas^
<Thomas> Ah, right. derp
<SigmaUK> But the replacement runs only once for those
<SigmaUK> Thomas I can fix that
<SigmaUK> I think
<Thomas> Oh, it should run only once
<Thomas> Thats perfect
<SigmaUK> No some replacements run every frame
<SigmaUK> But I can change that
<SigmaUK> I think
<Thomas> Some are fine, but the majority should run only once
<SigmaUK> Yes it's explained in the code
<SigmaUK> The only one that runs each frame is FormatFixer(string, Date)
<GregroxMun> I really wish there was some way to do multi-star lighting.
<Thomas> Every star gets its own light component and light flare. So there is a way to do it
<Thomas> (It might be disabled though)
<SigmaUK> Thomas I found an error
<SigmaUK> string s = number.ToString();
<SigmaUK> Should be
<SigmaUK> string s = (number % 100).ToString();
<Thomas> Theeeen change it?
<SigmaUK> I'm on my phone
<SigmaUK> :)
<SigmaUK> Gtg
<SigmaUK> Cya later
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<TWG> o/ anyone here?
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<UmbralRaptor> No
<GregroxMun> !tell TWG I recommend addressing the person you need to talk to or need help from, instead of just asking. Reason being not everyone has the window open. Alternatively, type what you need to say and then leave, if the person is online then they may be able to read what you wrote even after leaving. Or even do a !tell.
<Qboid> GregroxMun: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<GregroxMun> !tell TWG I say this because you often start with "is anyone here" to which the answer is yes, but they don't always know you are.
<Qboid> GregroxMun: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
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