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<wb99999999>
good evening friends
<Bornholio>
hey
<soundnfury>
good morfternoon nines
<wb99999999>
nice to see you guys, there's like nobody here the entire afternoon yesterday
<wb99999999>
it was a bit creepy
<wb99999999>
so is there a good middle point between RS-25 and RS-68?
<wb99999999>
not so expensive but also not so...specifically tuned
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<UmbralRaptor>
STME?
<Bornholio>
I've always considered the 68 to be the end result of STME, STME did have better TWR thoguh
<Bornholio>
though
<wb99999999>
also better vacuum Isp
<wb99999999>
I hate 68 not for its TWR but the atrocious vaccum Isp
<wb99999999>
make it suck as a sustainer
<Bornholio>
then must up chamber pressures :P = more cost = SSME
<wb99999999>
this is sad
<wb99999999>
STME is a good middle point for me tho
<wb99999999>
correction: STME AS PROPOSED
<soundnfury>
Notional Launch System
<wb99999999>
har har
<wb99999999>
this make sad and I'm not even American
<wb99999999>
they had everything in place for a shuttle derived heavy lifter
<wb99999999>
and they scratched projects after projects
<UmbralRaptor>
Only so many hydrolox engines out there. I guess one could look at the HG3, LE-5, LE-7, and RD-0120.
<wb99999999>
I wonder how much does rd-0120 cost...
<Bornholio>
14.3 standard vodka units
<wb99999999>
actually RS-68, for its high thrust and high surface Isp can be very good for a boost stage
<wb99999999>
especially if you cluster it...but you can't
<wb99999999>
ablative cooling
<stratochief>
they could've re-designed a more robust ablative nozzle, but that would be a cycle of engine development that would've stretched out rocket development time even further
<Bornholio>
ooh a wild stratochief...would you push my ISRU PR and also my Dev RP-0 PR so I can fix the fixes
<wb99999999>
wat
<stratochief>
Bornholio: nein, sorry. haven't opened github in foreva for KSP, not getting into it tonight
<wb99999999>
so you say "a wild [persons name]" in English too?
<Bornholio>
.sad k, seven yes, pokeballs work in english also :)
<Bornholio>
but i missed
<wb99999999>
nah I'm just a bit stunned...cuz people say the exact same thing in the same context back to my home
<stratochief>
wb99999999: just another pokemon reference, I believe.
<wb99999999>
guess pokeballs are true global icon
* stratochief
did not poke the mons
<UmbralRaptor>
There is still time to.
<soundnfury>
I didn't even realise that that was where that phrase came from. Hunh.
* UmbralRaptor
points to Pokémon Go
<wb99999999>
it is from pokemon indeed
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<blowfish>
anyone know where interplanetary heat shields are in the new tech tree
<blowfish>
can't seem to find them
<blowfish>
also, do you really need to unlock the entire staged combustion tree to get the SSME? Seems a bit odd
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<taniwha>
SSME is pretty darn advanced
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<blowfish>
taniwha: yeah but I don't think it was really dependent on all the russian staged combustion research that branch of the tree contains
<taniwha>
I suspect the idea is not so much it depending on the russian engines, but on the research cost
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<awang>
blowfish: Are your MM changes in the dev branch of Sarbian's MM repo? Or do you have your own fork?
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<awang>
blowfish: Also, UrlBuilder.cs seems to be missing from the repo?
<blowfish>
awang: dev
<awang>
Ah, ok, just making sure since I don't want to miss anything
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<egg|zzz|egg>
Sarbian: Bornholio: awang: RFC: deprecating 1.3.0 for Principia (will keep shipping 1.2.2 builds as long as RO hasn't moved to 1.3.1, and will keep making 1.3.1 builds, but can we assume RO will skip 1.3.0?)
<egg|zzz|egg>
cc Pap ^
<egg|zzz|egg>
cc Agathorn, too ^
<egg|zzz|egg>
cc lamont of course ^
* egg|zzz|egg
keeps forgetting people
<Bornholio>
egg it sure looks like it will but, i have no power to push a release. Awang has done the most to get it moving there
<Bornholio>
Merci pour l'information monsieur oeuf
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<Wrecker>
Anyone ever have issues with the Geostationary Weather Satellite contract?
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