00:55 <awang> Bornholio: No clue, unfortunately. Things have been working fine on my end for a while

00:56 <awang> Bornholio: Here's everything I have installed: https://hastebin.com/raw/epubugacak

00:57 <Bornholio> cool

00:58 <awang> egg|zzz|egg: Skipping 1.3.0 sounds fine to me. I'm not the one in charge of releases, though, so I'd take that with a grain of salt

01:37 <Bornholio> need to hunt down a pr pusher and draft them into the 1.3.1 war

01:53 <wb99999999> what does that even mean

01:53 <wb99999999> what 1.3.1 war?

01:53 <Bornholio> get a ro/rp-0 release for 1.3.1ksp

01:54 <wb99999999> oh okay

01:54 <schnobs> as in "join the war effort".

01:54 <wb99999999> I was thinking in terms of a war with an opponent

01:54 <blowfish> ahh, need someone who can actually merge stuff?

01:54 <Qboid> blowfish: awang left a message for you in #RO [12.11.2017 09:26:50]: "Most recent startup with MM built from dev has 144540 patches applied in 975.325s"

01:54 <Qboid> blowfish: awang left a message for you in #RO [12.11.2017 09:27:34]: "No complaints about MM patch errors, though?"

01:54 <Qboid> blowfish: Sarbian left a message for you in #RO [12.11.2017 13:10:28]: "well you can have the tuple in Unity https://gitlab.com/HardlyDifficult/ValueTupleForDotNet3_5"

01:54 <Qboid> blowfish: egg|zzz|egg left a message for you in #kspacademia [12.11.2017 15:34:12]: "RFC: deprecating 1.3.0 for Principia (will keep shipping 1.2.2 builds as long as RO hasn't moved to 1.3.1, and will keep making 1.3.1 builds, but can we assume RO will skip 1.3.0?)"

01:55 <schnobs> "I have nothing to offer but..." yadda yadda.

01:56 <blowfish> awang: yeah, kinda wondered if just patching it into the System namespace would work but didn't bother trying

01:56 <blowfish> oh sorry, that was Sarbian

01:57 <blowfish> !tell egg* sure ... why is that message for me though?

01:57 <Qboid> blowfish: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.

01:57 <egg|zzz|egg> in case you had comments :-p

01:57 <Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: blowfish left a message for you in #RO [13.11.2017 01:57:35]: "sure ... why is that message for me though?"

01:58 <egg|zzz|egg> also I should sleep

01:58 <blowfish> yeah, I wouldn't worry about new releases of mods for 1.2.2

02:02 <wb99999999> maybe also find someone to help starwaster on PP solids

02:03 <wb99999999> I want his idea of motors having realistic length and diameter related thrust and burntime to come true so much XD

02:23 <Rokker> Bornholio: https://youtu.be/3gOJlNMuQ_I

08:58 <awang> TIL rockets have user's manuals

08:58 <awang> http://www.arianespace.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Vega-Users-Manual_Issue-04_April-2014.pdf

10:12 <Iskierka> ofc

10:12 <Iskierka> why wouldn't they?

10:25 <wb99999999> man crossfeeding is even less useful than many have thought in RO

10:26 <wb99999999> most of us know it's not very useful, but I'd say it's nearly useless

11:05 <Iskierka> and how do you determine this?

11:25 <ProjectThoth> I DID IT

11:25 <ProjectThoth> I DROVE TO THE OTHER SPACE CENTER

11:25 <ProjectThoth> WOOO

13:27 <Maxsimal> o/ hiya

18:01 <awang> Does MJ autostaging not trigger sometimes for anyone else here?

18:02 <awang> I'm trying to use the "autostage once" functionality to drop boosters, but there are points where it just doesn't trigger even after the boosters have shut down

18:02 <awang> Revert flight, and it works fine the next time

18:16 <Maxsimal> awang: Sorry I don't use autostaging with MJ. I'm always worried it'll drop my fairings too early.

18:52 <Theysen> hey folks

18:55 <awang> Maxsimal: That's why I usually only autostage one stage at a time

18:55 <awang> Also, couldn't you just bump up the fairing jettison altitude to over 100km or something?

18:56 <awang> Maybe not necessary gameplay-wise, but seems that it's relatively common for real-life launches?

18:57 <Theysen> yes 100km is a rough benchmark for fairing sep

18:57 <Theysen> depends on too many factors though

18:58 <awang> Maybe MJ should add a "heat flux" option for determining when to jettison the fairings

18:58 <awang> Heat flux + dynamic pressure, no need for altitude?

18:59 <Theysen> vibrations of the internal rocket :P

19:01 <Theysen> since we cant calculate it.. heat flux sounds fine

19:01 <awang> Writing a mod to determine resonance frequencies sounds... fun

19:08 <awang> I also like how TF sometimes loads and sometimes doesn't

19:31 <lamont> awang: there’s an autostaging bug

22:44 <wb99999999> Just noticed some details on the Skylon

22:45 <wb99999999> the SABRE engines has like 2.9 MN of thrust in air-breathing?

22:45 <wb99999999> how is this even fucking possible

22:55 <wb99999999> someone in this chat ought to be well-read enough to answer this question...

23:59 <Bornholio> thats the rocket mode number IIRC

23:59 <Bornholio> vacuum