00:45 <soundnfury> hmm, has anyone else tried using the Soil Mechanics Surface Sampler?

00:45 <soundnfury> it appears to be spamming NREs in the VAB. (idk if it does so in flight too)

01:48 <awang> Is boiloff still a problem when engines are actively running?

01:48 <soundnfury> it'll still happen, if that's what you mean

02:11 <awang> I guess my question really is "Is venting still necessary when engines are actively running"

02:11 <awang> Also, anyone else see a bug where resource amounts in right-click menus don't update if KSP isn't in the foreground?

02:48 <lamont> awang acharles: https://github.com/lamont-granquist/MechJeb2/releases/tag/mchenry5

02:50 <awang> soundnfury: Is your recompile for 1.2.2 or 1.3.1?

02:50 <awang> lamont: \o/

02:51 <awang> lamont: Anything special I should be paying attention to for this? Besides PEG status

02:51 <lamont> that’s about it

02:52 <lamont> its sucked in your changes and my transfer planner changes that have nothing to do with peg

02:55 <awang> Alright

02:55 <awang> I'll try it out and see whether PEG complains for my launches

03:10 <soundnfury> awang: 1.2.2

03:58 <soundnfury> awang: recompile is for 1.2.2

04:24 <awang> :(

04:50 <awang> Anyone know how powerful the X-1B RCS was?

04:51 <awang> Also, pretty sure I'm doing this X-1 flight wrong

04:51 <awang> What altitude was the X-1 dropped at?

04:52 <awang> I'm dropping at 22 km, and I'm pretty sure the X-1 is unstable at that altitude before going supersonic

04:57 <awang> Also, sort of surprised that there isn't a config for an upgrade XLR11

05:00 <awang> s/upgrade/upgraded

05:00 <Qboid> awang meant to say: Also, sort of surprised that there isn't a config for an upgraded XLR11

05:34 <acharles> lamont: I’ll take a look

06:08 <soundnfury> awang: if you can find some data for it, why not make one? ;)

13:45 <acharles> lamont: Doesn’t seem to work for launching to a 97 inclination, 320x735km orbit (I have 13000+ dv, so should work). It’s weird that PEG fails during ascent rather than waiting until after the gravity turn. The gravity turn also fails. What should “leading angle to plane” be set to? 0? Something else?

17:01 <Starwaster> yo

17:25 <Maxsimal> Hi there, how's it goin?

17:56 <lamont> acharles: unless you’re launching to plane, “leading angle to plane” is ignored and should be 0

17:56 <acharles> Hmm…

17:56 <acharles> Then I’m not sure why it wasn’t working.

17:57 <acharles> It was just going all over the place.

17:58 <lamont> does 185x735 work?

17:59 <lamont> because a titan 2 style short-burn launch to 320x735 won’t work because the burn isn’t long enough to hit that and PEG will spazz

18:44 <soundnfury> !tell Pap the Soil Mechanics Surface Sampler part is utterly broken; it spazzes NREs from ModuleAnimateGeneric and prevents other animated sci exps from deploying; the experiment can't actually be run.

18:44 <Qboid> soundnfury: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.

19:00 <awang> soundnfury: Good news: Finding thrust numbers for the upgraded XLR11 is easy

19:00 <awang> Bad news: Finding anything else is hard

19:05 <soundnfury> -_-

19:08 <soundnfury> awang: http://jttlov.no-ip.org/napier2.png <-- two-seat Napier, prepped for unmanned test flight

19:08 <soundnfury> (let's see how this goes)

19:10 <awang> Hey, it's not that much different than a one-seater. What's the worst that can happen?

19:10 <awang> Also, those are really big fins on your launcher

19:12 <soundnfury> ikr

19:12 <soundnfury> it's like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-20_Dyna-Soar#/media/File:Dyna-Soar_on_Titan_booster.jpg

19:13 <awang> Oh jeez

19:13 <awang> And here I thought gimbaling could compensate

19:15 <soundnfury> fins are the difference between "flown by pilot" and "flown by computer"

19:16 <soundnfury> iirc the usaf pilots insisted that it should be possible to hand-fly the thing in case the computer failed

19:16 <soundnfury> would've refused to fly in it otherwise

19:24 <soundnfury> well, it got to orbit OK :)

19:50 <awang> Fair enough

19:50 <awang> Let me know how reentry goes

19:50 <soundnfury> just starting it now...

19:59 <soundnfury> yup, so far it's handling much the same as the one-seater

20:00 <soundnfury> comes in slightly steeper because of the extra mass (higher BC) but still pretty soft

20:23 <soundnfury> safely down at 29°25’N 84°37’W. I reckon that's jolly close to the Cape (just 410km away).

23:24 <Bornholio> awang have you tested the new Kopernicus release with RSS?

23:26 <awang> Bornholio: There's a new Kopernicus release?

23:26 <awang> Ah

23:26 <awang> No, I haven't

23:26 <awang> I have Kopernicus 1.3.1-2

23:26 <awang> Didn't know there was a release

23:27 <Bornholio> was checking for updates and updating the spreadsheet so i noticed

23:28 <awang> Yeah, can't help you there, unfortunately

23:28 <awang> I also have Principia installed, so that may confound things too

23:28 <Bornholio> yes that can

23:28 <egg|zzz|egg> meow

23:29 <Bornholio> let sleeping eggs lay in pricipia clouds and kopernicus hay

23:30 <Thomas> moo

23:30 <awang> A wild egg appeared!

23:30 <awang> >FIGHT BAG

23:30 <awang> POKéMON RUN