<Bornholio>
pap is there currently any TL tech tree Battery changes?
<Pap>
I want to say they get lighter through the tree. Or denser.
<Pap>
I can't remember for sure though
<Bornholio>
okay i'll root around
<Bornholio>
holy cow KSP finnaly had a successful cache after two staight month of MM tossing it
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<schnobs>
Hmmm. Facility upgrade not visible, is that a thing?
<schnobs>
I supposedly have a lvl2 launchpad, but still see the lvl1 sandbox.
<SpecimenSpiff>
the first several upgrades all use the same art
<SpecimenSpiff>
there are more levels than visuals
<schnobs>
Oh, didn't know that.
<schnobs>
Oh, and just for the hell of it, here's a rad idea: could the "stock" able, delta, agena,... parts be renamed and retooled to the nearest 100mm?
<schnobs>
For those who want accurate replicas, there's several part packs to chose from.
<awang>
schnobs: IIRC there's 7 pad levels
<Starwaster>
We just lost one of our cats :(
<SpecimenSpiff>
Im sorry
<ProjectThoth>
Starwaster: :(
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<Starwaster>
bobcat fever (Cytauxzoonosis) - transmitted by ticks. This little guy lived most of his life outdoors as a feral cat though there was a human who fed him and his family his whole life so he knew humans
<ProjectThoth>
Poor baby.
<Starwaster>
90-95% fatality rate but apparently treatment options have been improving. Unfortunately we didn't find out what was wrong until too late
<ProjectThoth>
I lost my first cat to a heart condition. Guy had 12 great years with us, though.
<ProjectThoth>
Miss that loveable oaf sometimes.
<ProjectThoth>
Starwaster: That's the thing, really... the time that you had with him, and he with you, is valuable in its own right. If you had another day, you'd be in want of a week; another week, in want of a month; another month, in want of a year There never really is enough time, nor is there the right time for anything to happen.
<ProjectThoth>
And that's okay. Life of all kinds is a miracle in its own right. That we get to share it with our friends, family, and pets is nothing shy of amazing.
<Starwaster>
it's true, there's never enough time or enough treats handed out or pictures taken
<Starwaster>
he was the least feral of all the three. He walked in on his own and I was petting him within a day. I wonder if he stuck close to the house and came in because he knew he wasn't well...
<ProjectThoth>
They know, trust me.
<Starwaster>
his mother is the most feral though she's coming along. Tolerates some touching
<ProjectThoth>
My first cat was born feral. Absolute sweetheart.
<Starwaster>
funny story: I tried for a couple of weeks to trap Smokey's sister but she wouldn't go in the trap. So I rigged the porch as a giant trap with a string and stick to prop the screen door open
<ProjectThoth>
Wait, he was named Smokey, too?
<ProjectThoth>
That's what my cat's name was.
<Starwaster>
she still didn't want to come in so I put Smokey on the porch as bait and she came in :)
<ProjectThoth>
Sweetest little gray tabby you ever did meet. Liked rolling in the dirt a lot, so come summertime we'd have to break out the paper towels. That cat turned *brown*, let me tell you.
<Starwaster>
she was so freaked when we got her inside the house and Smokey ran over to her to reassure her
<Starwaster>
yeah some cats like the dirt
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<ProjectThoth>
Never a bad time to ring up family members you haven't seen in a while who are getting up there in years, I should say, on that note.
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<NathanKell>
o/
<Qboid>
NathanKell: Mike` left a message for you in #RO [12.02.2018 22:08:04]: "I added the tag to the 625mBonny, but i cannot remove the "Tag" part because that belongs to a formula cell which is locked, so you or pap would have to do that, i guess. Also, pap says to edit the sheet and rebuild, not just commit to the repo. :D"
<Qboid>
NathanKell: Probus left a message for you in #RO [13.02.2018 13:57:07]: "RSS is not fully compatible with Kopernicus -5. Have to use the -3 for the oceans to work correctly."
<NathanKell>
!tell Mike* do you not have full access then? I'm confused.
<Qboid>
NathanKell: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<NathanKell>
!tell Probus um...that's not good.
<Qboid>
NathanKell: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
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<Probus>
NathanKell, the water disappears or if you have scatterer installed, the water is visually there, but is not physically there.
<Qboid>
Probus: NathanKell left a message for you in #RO [14.02.2018 05:55:52]: "um...that's not good."
<NathanKell>
Ok. We'll have to find out what changed...
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<schnobs>
Yeah, that water thing gave me quite a fright when the chutes just wouldn't deploy. Impact never happened, though, chutes finally popped out and I landed safely at the bottom of the sea.
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<Probus>
taniwha?
<taniwha>
yeah?
<Probus>
Do you have a compiled version of EarlyBird?
<Maxsimal>
!tell soundnfury Any updates on where the RIS game is at? Are we waiting for RP-1 to be ckan-able for 1.3.1?
<Qboid>
Maxsimal: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<soundnfury>
that and waiting for some outstanding bugs to be fixed, I think
<Qboid>
soundnfury: Maxsimal left a message for you in #RO [14.02.2018 10:39:14]: "Any updates on where the RIS game is at? Are we waiting for RP-1 to be ckan-able for 1.3.1?"
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<Maxsimal>
Cool.
<Probus>
Does Kerbal Konstructs work with RO 1.3.1? I was wanting to load the Kennedy Space Center.
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<awang>
Probus: I have KK installed, but haven't actually done anything with it yet
<awang>
So it loads, at least?
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<Mike`>
!tell NathanKell* no, p'a'p locked the formulas i think. Which might not be the worst idea seeing as they should hardly change and those giant sheets are a bit scary in general. :)
<Qboid>
Mike`: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<Qboid>
Mike`: NathanKell left a message for you in #RO [14.02.2018 05:55:46]: "do you not have full access then? I'm confused."
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<Slaintemaith>
Has anyone run a FASA-based lunar mission lately? Doesn't have to be lunar, technically, just involve the CM attached to the LM.
<Slaintemaith>
The issue is trying to hold attitude while doing a burn of any significant amount of time--say, circularization.
<Slaintemaith>
RCS doesn't hold attitude.
<Slaintemaith>
And MechJeb's Smart A.S.S. doesn't seem to want to use the gimbal of the CM's engine to keep it held.
<Slaintemaith>
So eventually it careens out of control.
<schnobs>
describe what happens. Are you going in circles?
<Slaintemaith>
Anyone? Anyone at all have these symptoms?
<Slaintemaith>
It oscillates.
<Slaintemaith>
Starts to correct left, then eventually over-corrects.
<schnobs>
slow and in a wide arc?
<Slaintemaith>
And goes out of control. I suspect it'd go in circles if I'd left it long enough.
<Slaintemaith>
Exactly so.
<Slaintemaith>
This happens even with Attitide Adjustment's different modes.
<schnobs>
You have the game running, and a craft loaded?
<Slaintemaith>
Not at the moment no.
<Slaintemaith>
But I could make that happen.
<schnobs>
not strictly necessary... but you may want to fire it up in the meantime.
<schnobs>
(last time it was me who didn't have MJ running, but now I can provide precise input)
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<Slaintemaith>
Groovy.
<schnobs>
Don't ask me to explain it all -- MJ has a wiki page somewhere outlining it, though.
<schnobs>
Settings I had success with when oversteering:
<schnobs>
widen Tf range min-max: 0.01 - 0.9
<schnobs>
Kd : gradually increase that, most of the time 1.5-2.5 works well enough for me.
<Slaintemaith>
Hrm. Gotta get into orbit first.
<schnobs>
Kp, Ki: try increasing to 4 and 6 or 4 and 8.
<Slaintemaith>
I don't think I've ever seen the proper MechJeb documentation. I've seen abbreviated bits of it. Sounds like pid adjustments.
<schnobs>
That's what they are.
<schnobs>
lately, I had great sucess with just setting it to the KosAttitudeController. Instantly fixes the issues for most (but not all) of my craft.
<Slaintemaith>
Are they storable per-craft?
<schnobs>
...
<schnobs>
They used to be. Doesn't seem to work as of late.
<Slaintemaith>
Meaning let's say I get the performance tweaked with the CM/LM. Will mechjeb remember that as a separate config rather than, say, the LM on its own.
<Qboid>
[#981] title: Attutde Adjustment settings not persistent | Recently I received MJ 2.7.0 via CKAN and found that I have to re-enter my attitude adjustment settings every time I re-load the vessel (revert, load game, possibly every scene change though i didn't ... | https://github.com/MuMech/MechJeb2/issues/981
<schnobs>
AFAIK MJ stores it's settings based on vessel name.
<Slaintemaith>
Hrm.
<Slaintemaith>
I find these conflicting reports very conflicting. =)
<Slaintemaith>
well. That's the other thing.
<Slaintemaith>
I'm not using the 1.3.1 version of RO.
<Slaintemaith>
If I'm honest, I wouldn't know where to start with tracking down all the dev versions of everything.
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<Slaintemaith>
So I'm still using 1.2.2
<schnobs>
Well, my solution is to live with the workaround until dev is released. Unless a problem really bugs me.
<Slaintemaith>
Or is that that MJ version for 1.2.2?
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<schnobs>
if you have an older realease, your settings should still be saved on a per-craft-name basis.
<Probus>
As a work around Slaintemaith, you could load a fly-by-wire mod.
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<Probus>
Dunno if that would work, but it might be worth a try.
<Slaintemaith>
Hrm.
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<Slaintemaith>
I would have never thought to do that. Is there one for the venerable 1.2.2, I wonder?
<Probus>
There is one by boris-barbonis that works in 1.2.2
<Slaintemaith>
Atmo Autopilot is fly-by-wire, but it does sort of suggest ...atmo. =)
<Slaintemaith>
That's the one.
<Slaintemaith>
I'll see how that goes.
<Probus>
Yeah that's the one. That's why I said it *might* work.
<Slaintemaith>
I guess I'll find out momentarily.
<Slaintemaith>
Must write down my shuttle ascent settings first. That pitch program is -not- the same for a Saturn V.
<Slaintemaith>
And I worked too long to loft the shuttle in to orbit to lose all that work.
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<Probus>
It has a rocket mode Slaintemaith
<Slaintemaith>
Right. I know that thing can do many many things I never tried. =)