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<queqiao-> ⟨§​κyℓαr ♀⟩ Sophie (family cat grew up with, she was evil) would sometimes catch flies and claw up their wings and start swatting at them without claws to scare them and make them whistle with their torn wings.
<queqiao-> ⟨§​κyℓαr ♀⟩ idk if whistle is the right word, but, make a loud sound lol
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #3076 commit - https://git.io/JBubA
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<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin synchronize pull request #3076: Test passage in the compatibility paths, add a save by Reach - https://git.io/J4Rma
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<queqiao-> ⟨s​cimas⟩ Might be of interest to people here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJr_lU7_7Go
<queqiao-> ⟨§​κyℓαr ♀⟩ Ah, finally someone taking about a programming language that isn't the C family, rust, python, or webshit lol (as soon as I get my fucking wifi working on my computer I will have to start playing with stuff again, really need to start actually learning much programming lol)
<queqiao-> ⟨§​κyℓαr ♀⟩ or well, talking about other stuff outside of niche tech communities
<queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ How can you be on discord so much without wifi?
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] Bellabong opened issue #3078: Principia uses icon color instead of orbit color - https://git.io/JBzD3
<queqiao-> ⟨(​ᴇxᴘᴇʀɪᴍᴇɴᴛᴀʟshells)⟩ presumably mobile data
* raptop stares at a pair of cat-5 cables going to my router
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ I wonder if I should attempt to make an English translation of that 百度百科 low Earth orbit article
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​ombieZilla⟩ Yes, you should
<UmbralRaptop> It seems like a good idea
<queqiao-> ⟨§​κyℓαr ♀⟩ The mobile data guess of experimental shells is close but not it, its because my desktop's wifi adapter is too weak to reach the weak ass router but my phone is more than strong enough.
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy reviewed pull request #3076 commit - https://git.io/JBguI
<queqiao-> ⟨B​utcher⟩ Skylar needs a big cat-5 I think.
<queqiao-> ⟨S​tandecco⟩ My third-favourite kind of cat
<queqiao-> ⟨§​κyℓαr ♀⟩ Whats the other two?
<queqiao-> ⟨S​tandecco⟩ actual cats and cat-6
<queqiao-> ⟨§​κyℓαr ♀⟩ I honestly didn't know about cat cables until now, my knowledge of networking is behind my other knowledge lol
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​ombieZilla⟩ all I know is rj45
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​ombieZilla⟩ and cat6
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<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Is low lunar polar orbit stable?
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ My probe seemed to fluctuate between like 50km and 80km on the periapsis
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ My probe seemed to fluctuate between like 50km and 80km on the periapsis but it seemed to last for easily forever (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨S​tonesmile⟩ There exist some 'frozen orbits', one of which is at about 85° at 100 km IIRC
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Interesting, I will aim for that on my mission
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ squeeze that low space orbital pertubation science
<queqiao-> ⟨S​tonesmile⟩ Although it varies with Ap and Pe, so results may vary a lot depending on specifics of the orbit
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ There is a graph in the pinned messages
<queqiao-> ⟨B​utcher⟩ Egg, any investigation on my mercury orbiter?
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ Not yet but I have made progress on the framework to investigate saves like that
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<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ How do you launch into sun synchronous orbits?
<queqiao-> ⟨D​amien⟩ It's just a slightly retrograde polar orbit I believe, just with specific inclination/altitudes
<queqiao-> ⟨D​amien⟩ The wiki article has a table
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Haha I think I got it, it always sees the sun
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ After a while its dead however
<queqiao-> ⟨D​amien⟩ Its orbit maintains the same angle to the sun. It may not always see it in the case of a noon-midnight orbit
<queqiao-> ⟨D​amien⟩ A dusk-dawn orbit would
<queqiao-> ⟨D​amien⟩ And those are the coolest looking
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<queqiao-> ⟨S​ir Mortimer⟩ I wonder how clogged that orbit is IRL
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ Wow my 86 degree moon orbit seems to be sun synchronized too
<queqiao-> ⟨Z​eusbeer⟩ I guess it will only be temporary though
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<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ It is not the most popular sun synch one, the morning and afternoon ones are more common
<queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ I think this channel would be most knowledgeable about this question: Why didn't the International Time Bureau shift their calculated meridian the angle required to match the prior prime meridian? I understand that the definition doesn't rely on the surface, but why did they not chose to make the meridian be a certain small angle west of what they calculated?
<queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ What altitude is it?
<queqiao-> ⟨S​tonesmile⟩ About 400 000 km
<queqiao-> ⟨S​tonesmile⟩ About 400 000 km😜 (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨P​aculino (ŝi/ri/she/they)⟩ I couldn't tell on my phone that was the moon 😳
<queqiao-> ⟨A​l2Me6⟩ I've produced a rough translation of the Baidu Baike article on Earth orbits: https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/wiki/Orbits-of-Artificial-Earth-Satellites
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<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ all hail the trimethylaluminium!
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ Hm, the equation is missing, but also Jnm is a weird and somewhat nonstandard notation so we’ll probably want to rewrite that part
<queqiao-> ⟨(​ᴇxᴘᴇʀɪᴍᴇɴᴛᴀʟshells)⟩ "rage" should be "rate"
<queqiao-> ⟨r​ocketman⟩ it's one angry planet
<queqiao-> ⟨Q​eDelphyn (Xšayāršā/-ām/-āyā)⟩ there is one country that uses retrograde orbits exclusively
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ yes I wanted to add that as an editor’s note
<queqiao-> ⟨r​ocketman⟩ israel?
<queqiao-> ⟨Q​eDelphyn (Xšayāršā/-ām/-āyā)⟩ yes
<queqiao-> ⟨S​tonesmile⟩ Feel free to edit it, anyone can edit the page
<queqiao-> ⟨r​ocketman⟩ israel? I remember it's one of the ones with issues related to neighboring countries (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ unrelated terrible CJKV/mathematics pun https://twitter.com/eggleroy/status/911413105971908609
<queqiao-> ⟨r​ocketman⟩ .-.
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ hint: ||https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complexification||
<queqiao-> ⟨r​ocketman⟩ I'm guessing its traditional vs simplified
<queqiao-> ⟨r​ocketman⟩ but I don't know enough to confirm
<queqiao-> ⟨r​ocketman⟩ you made it _complex_
<raptop> 猫† = 子猫
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ truly
<raptop> (joke does not work in all languages)
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ yes that ones requires Japanese
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ yes that one requires Japanese (edited)
<queqiao-> ⟨r​ocketman⟩ 幾 = 几 ⊗ ℂ 😓
<raptop> hah
<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ yes, that one is quite intense
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<queqiao-> ⟨e​gg⟩ Re. the meridian, continuity with each earlier definition is more important than constancy all the way to ancient definitions, much like TT(TAI) is about 27 μs from TT(BIPM)