00:52 <XXCoder> ;mission

00:52 <LunchBot> XXCoder: You deliver a rover via fractional orbital bombardment. You crack a joke about it.

01:54 <SporkWitch> packbart: gotta be something unique about the smoke effects of the rapiers when on the runway. once i get to a couple hundred metres framerate stabilizes just fine. it's really weird

01:56 <raptop> o_O

02:09 <SporkWitch> raptop: since switching out realplume for waterfall, i've been getting severe framerate issues with more than 2 rapiers on the runway, but it's ONLY the rapiers and only when close to the ground. Can't figure out what it is about them, since the effects don't appear significantly different from other engines that don't cause any issues

02:13 <raptop> Yeah, that's really weird

02:56 <flayer> i should add a flotation device to debris recovery missions

03:01 <SporkWitch> whee! friendly mun giving me a boost away from kerbin!

03:01 <SporkWitch> don't necessarily need it because holy crap i love ion engines, but handy nonetheless ^^

03:05 <umaxtu> you wouldn't happen to work for Sienar Fleet Systems would you SporkWitch?

03:08 <SporkWitch> umaxtu: sounds familiar; i think one of the corps i used to run with joined them at some point

03:08 <SporkWitch> i haven't played EVE in quite some time, though

03:09 <umaxtu> wrong sci-fi. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sienar_Fleet_Systems

03:09 <SporkWitch> also, not so friendly mun, it wasn't a boost, it was an impact! lol

03:09 <SporkWitch> the orbit predictions lied!

03:09 <SporkWitch> ah, also explains why it sounds familiar; SFS designed the TIE craft, didn't they?

03:10 <SporkWitch> hence your joke, given TIE = Twin Ion Engine

03:13 <umaxtu> yup

03:27 <flayer> nerds

03:34 <raptop> uh

03:37 <umaxtu> lol

06:36 <SporkWitch> can a clampotron jr dock with a full-size?

06:38 <Althego> only in the editor

06:38 <Althego> so it can undock, but not dock

06:39 <SporkWitch> gotcha, thanks

07:10 <SporkWitch> lol, my probe doesn't float, i have to sink to the bottom of the ocean before i can recover it lol

07:11 <Althego> unless it is squashed by the pressure

07:11 <Althego> i dont knwo what you did, it is hard to make things sink in ksp

07:12 <XXCoder> yeah. danny made a sub, and it had to have engines pointing up to go in

07:18 <SporkWitch> was a qbe probe core, a xenon tank, a tiny reaction wheel, an ion engine, and a parachute; it sank at 1.1m/s lol

07:19 <SporkWitch> also, apparently the decoupler from one of my stages splashed down intact... lol

07:19 <SporkWitch> i'm wondering if the info about things despawning in atmosphere is outdated and i SHOULD strap parachutes to my stages...

07:22 <Althego> they do despawn

07:24 <SporkWitch> lol, apparently i got money and science for depth records lol

08:43 <SporkWitch> i am pleased. put my first station in orbit around kerbin but was lower than i wanted. flew my spaceplane up to it, pushed it into a higher orbit, and successfully landed back at the KSC :) (yes, i realize this is basic stuff, but it's still satisfying lol)

09:09 <darsie> pics

09:10 <darsie> Not sure if I should show you my stations :).

09:11 <darsie> Pic including contract, if possible.

15:20 <SporkWitch> was a real simple contract, just needed power, comms, and space for 5 kerbals, so I just did a cupula, hitchhiker, communotron, a big-ass battery (the one that matches radius with hitchhiker module), some monoprop, RCS, and a clampotron. I modified my spaceplane, replacing the mk2 cockpit with the mk2 in-line, an adapter, and shielded clampotron, so i could push along center of mass, instead of having it hang off the

15:20 <SporkWitch> plane's "neck" by the ventral clampotron

15:20 <SporkWitch> *dorsal, rather

15:24 <SporkWitch> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812736295814168623/909463688669438002/unknown.png

15:24 <darsie> nice

15:24 <darsie> Mine would have been much smaller :).

15:25 <darsie> The cupola has high drag. Putting it in a fairing may help.

15:25 <SporkWitch> i used a fairing; since figuring them out i've been using them extensively, just makes things so much more controllable

15:26 <SporkWitch> i was just cheap on the launch booster, had JUST enough to get me into an 80/73 orbit

15:26 <SporkWitch> so I sent this up to give it a push: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812736295814168623/909464272675950632/unknown.png

15:26 <SporkWitch> it's now at a nice 150/150 orbit

15:27 <SporkWitch> (not going to keep this particular configuration, or if I do, I'll need to tweak the fuel distribution; this ended up with 400-500 less deltav once I reached orbit than it did with regular mk2 cockpit instead of the inline, adapter, and dock

15:28 <SporkWitch> one thing i do find annoying / weird: no steering on the medium and larger landing gear

15:28 <SporkWitch> correction, just the large, but still

15:42 <SporkWitch> bah, can't seem to find a way to tie a rotational servo to yaw control and have it reset to zero when released lol (trying to make large landing gear capable of steering, like it should be)

19:52 <SporkWitch> not fair! i just spent like 15 minutes carefully linine up my cargo bay to try to capture the pod i'm trying to rescue and bring it back down with me, and the damn thing just passes through the cargo bay like it's not there! lol

20:03 <Althego> hehe

20:05 <darsie> Use the Klaw.

20:07 <Althego> or the force

20:08 <raptop> Force Klaw sounds like a Sith ability

20:08 <Althego> hehe

20:08 <Althego> now i imagine a darth maul kerbal with a hood

20:09 <raptop> As far as I'm concerned, the 2 Clone Wars series are more canon than the movies

20:10 <umaxtu> I still think that the Thrawn trilogy would've been much better as movies than the swill that Disney made.

20:10 <Althego> obviously

20:10 <umaxtu> They would have to get new actors though

20:21 <SporkWitch> the disney movies are intentionally bad, the writers and directors as much as admitted it, they set out to destroy star wars

20:21 <SporkWitch> or if you prefer more of a conspiracy theory: they made them bad to make the prequels look good in comparison (and they succeeded)

20:22 <Althego> all they did they destroyed themselves. the old star wars is still alive

20:22 <Althego> also destroyed their future income from star wars

20:28 <umaxtu> giving EA the exclusive license for star wars games didn't help either

20:29 <Althego> hehe, ea, one of the worst companies ever

20:29 <Althego> universally hated

20:29 <umaxtu> idk, Blizzard sounds pretty bad. at least if you are a female employee

20:30 <Althego> yes, the lates developments are devastating. blizzard went down the drain

20:31 <Mat2ch> I heard Rockstar did some great things with GTA 3...

20:31 <Althego> but i dont care about them anyway, the last game i liked from them was blakthorne

20:31 <Althego> yes they rolled back 3 offline games

20:32 <Althego> for the weekend

20:32 <Mat2ch> The offline games that now require an online launcher

20:32 <Mat2ch> and they didn't even upgrade the graphics, oh, noooooo

20:32 <Althego> luckily i never cared about gta either

20:32 <sandbox> it's a mixed bag

20:33 <umaxtu> and sued all the modders

20:34 <Althego> essentially a middle finger to all the community that has kept old games alive

20:36 <umaxtu> yup

20:37 <sandbox> guitar henk booths avaiable

20:38 <umaxtu> is that one of the typos in the remasters?

20:38 <umaxtu> also don't forget about the worst game dev of all. Squad /s

20:39 <Althego> i think the ksp2 team is already doing worse, even before release

20:39 <sandbox> vice city guitar shop texture no longer has guitars, just the text which is incorrect

20:45 <Mat2ch> Althego: I'm somehow betting on it :(

21:13 <flayer> i've given up on games almost entirely

21:15 <umaxtu> big games from big publishers, yeah

21:16 <SporkWitch> it's all about he indie lewd RPGmaker games :P

21:17 <umaxtu> indie stuff, sure. Stardew Valley is perfect. nobody can change my mind

21:19 <sandbox> oldies

21:25 <SporkWitch> stardew is insufficiently lewd, but still fun; abigail = best bae