raptop changed the topic of #KSPOfficial to: Kerbal Space Program official channel | KSP2 current version: 0.1.4.0 | Rules: http://tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png
<packbart> tz. even linuxgurugamer is on the Starfield Hype Train :>
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<Eddi|zuHause> despite all the hype, i've never actually looked at what that game is
<Izzy> spacerim
<packbart> Eddi|zuHause: I didn't really, either, because I'm not going to buy it at initial full price :)
<Izzy> it does seem there's a lot of excitement around it, but it's a bethesda game, in 5 years it'll be $15
<Izzy> and will run nicely on my machine
<packbart> I just bought Civ VI on sale for 6€
<Eddi|zuHause> that's true for most games
<packbart> a 90% discount after 7 years
<packbart> hm. for now, it seems to crash a lot. lgg hasn't made it past the intro, yet
<Izzy> oh is it out?
<packbart> yeah, since half an hour or so plus a 100GB download
<Izzy> huh. doesn't explain it being so quiet then
<Eddi|zuHause> i heard of a 5 day early access period for some collector edition
<packbart> Eddi|zuHause: that's probably it
<packbart> that's where lgg spends the KSP Patreon money!11 ;)
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<packbart> more Fallout in Space, than Skyrim, from the look of it, though
<Eddi|zuHause> i've only played a few minutes of either of those games
<packbart> well, at least launching your ship is easy. press space to go to space, watch cutscene ;)
<packbart> (judging by some random stream I was watching: https://www.twitch.tv/jester814 )
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<raptop> Consider: Daggerfall or Morrowind in space
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<Izzy> I feel less bad about my programming troubles given how much trouble everyone IRL has with their spacecraft software
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<Althego> hehe
<Althego> lot of neglected real life problems in a game
<Althego> for example you dont need to worry about fuel sloshing in ksp
<Althego> early apollo landers had undesired oscillations in the control loop causing lot of actuation in the rcs system
<Althego> because of the fuel
<Izzy> I'm sure there's a mod for use with RO that implements it ;)
<Mat2ch> RSS tries to at least simulate it for igniting the engines.
<Izzy> My issue is that I'm ... number-blind? Don't have the intuitive understanding that would make the sort of numerical control programming kOS involves easy.
<Althego> probably nobody has that
<Izzy> most people are better at it than me x-x
<Althego> pid is one of the most deceptive controllers, looks easy, and in reality tuning it is hard
<Izzy> no I mean any maths at all, I'm awful at it
<Izzy> I brute-force everything and let the game do the maths
<Izzy> rather than calculating orbits I adjust manuever nodes and check the results the game gives me
<Althego> that is also true of most people in genral, math is hard
<Althego> also there is no royal road in mathematics
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<Eddi|zuHause> !mission
<LunchBot> You launch the largest rocket possible from the smallest and least improved pad. You wonder what Jebediah most fears -- that dead Kerbals can send messages to the living, or that they can't.
<Eddi|zuHause> probably neither?
<Althego> he fears nothing
<Althego> or maybe the possibility he cant fly again
<Eddi|zuHause> probably not true either, but he doesn't seem like the type that worries about this stuff
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<Althego> maybe today? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBeJVN-0t2I tranche 0 on falcon 9
<Althego> the stream from yesterday was killed off just now, so this is a new one
<sandbox> !mission
<LunchBot> You accidentally refer to interstellar space as The Furthest Ring. The Queen is yeeted off of the surface of the earth at 8km/s.
<sandbox> which queen?
<packbart> The Queen of The Furthest Ring
<Mat2ch> Uh, thanks for the link!
<Mat2ch> "Standing down from today's launch attempt, next available opportunity is Saturday, September 2"
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<darsie> .mission fixup s/off of/of/
<LunchBot> No recently-mentioned mission found matching "off of".
<darsie> .outcome fixup s/off of/of/
<LunchBot> New text is: The Queen is yeeted of the surface of the earth at 8km/s.
<darsie> dang
<darsie> .outcome fixup s/yeeted of/yeeted off/
<LunchBot> New text is: The Queen is yeeted off the surface of the earth at 8km/s.
<darsie> .outcome fixup s/earth/Earth/
<LunchBot> New text is: The Queen is yeeted off the surface of the Earth at 8km/s.
<darsie> .outcome fixup s/8km/8 km/
<LunchBot> New text is: The Queen is yeeted off the surface of the Earth at 8 km/s.
<Eddi|zuHause> !mission
<LunchBot> You plan a mission while debating hot button issue in chat. Unfortunately your heatshield doesn't block neutrinos.
<Eddi|zuHause> button was too hot?
<Eddi|zuHause> !mission fixup s/hot/a hot/
<LunchBot> New text is: You plan a mission while debating a hot button issue in chat.
<Althego> what is hot button?
<Eddi|zuHause> a thing that is likely to cause split opinions and hot debates
<raptop> the sort of issues that get into loud angry arguments. Often politics related
<Eddi|zuHause> sort of related to "pressing buttons" as an analogy to trigger someone to respond emotionally
<raptop> ^
<Mat2ch> and you shouldn't think of a computer button here, but of a real button. That is red hot.
<Mat2ch> iirc
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<KrazyKrl> ;outcome add Luckily the asbestos isn't flammable.
<LunchBot> Added outcome: Luckily the asbestos isn't flammable.
<raptop> You know exactly what oxidizers are about to come up
<Althego> it is, if you use the correct materials :9
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<Eddi|zuHause> i'm seeing an "F" in my mind
<Althego> in some variations
<Eddi|zuHause> you mean, like, different fonts?
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<Althego> like FOOF and ClF3
<XXCoder> ;mission
<LunchBot> You decide to do nothing today. [DATA EXPUNGED]. Most of the remains were never recovered.
<Althego> hehe
<XXCoder> man should have gotten busy
<Althego> what dangerous nothing
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<Mat2ch> raptop: Weird reality you peaked into.
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<raptop> XXCoder: Maybe it was just something else breaching containment
<raptop> Mat2ch: It'll probably be good eventually. In the mean time, KSP1 has neat stuff
<XXCoder> maybe, but my idleness made it worse
<Azander> !mission
<LunchBot> Jeb's hibernation suit fails mere weeks into his return journey from Eeloo. Through years of total isolation in the blackness of space, his mind is warped beyond recognition. A landing leg fails, pinning Bob to the terrain.
<XXCoder> not too bad considering how bad jeb mind was warped while he was piloting
<Azander> maybe he thought he was an engineer for a while
<raptop> For all we know, Jeb could have sabotaged the landing leg
<XXCoder> even so still not too bad lol
<Eddi|zuHause> my bet is on jeb having torture fantasies
<Eddi|zuHause> !mission
<LunchBot> You claim that a gravity turn is a hard 45 degree pitchover at 10 km altitude. Luckily, the micro black hole dissipated quickly.
<XXCoder> few steps missing, but probably spin ship too fast and it turned into microblackhole
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<Eddi|zuHause> well, usually my rockets just disassemble during ascend, if i rotate them too fast...