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<packbart> why not build the boosters all around your second stage (and rename the vessel after staging) - https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/foo.mp4
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<JVFoxy> huh.. was gaming KSP on pc which i brought to friend's place. Now he's gotten sucked into the game too
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<UmbralRaptor> mwahahaha
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<transit> Bwoop
<UmbralRaptor> prox cen c!
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<transit> Toliman
<packbart> even Jeb looks surprised. https://imgur.com/Teguj15
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<transit> What’s that line connecting the two?
<transit> A Swiss army craft charging cable?
<Eddi|zuHause> looks like a fuel pipe?
<packbart> something like that. a KAS pipe. https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/142594-18-kerbal-attachment-system-kas-v15-incompatible-with-ksp-17/
<transit> I thought they were
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<packbart> rover wheel suspensions react weird when the vessels are heavy
<Eddi|zuHause> in some versions of KSP i had planes jumping up into the air when loading them
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<Eddi|zuHause> and also things attached to the ground via KAS had the tendency to simply explode for no reason
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<transit> I’m an uncle. 😱😱😱
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<transit> Bwoop
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<Deddly> O great robot overlord, I beseech thee to please bestow upon me the chanlog
<Mod9000> I keep channel logs here: bitcoinshell.mooo.com/users/deddly/?C=M;O=D
<Deddly> thx
<Althego> lol
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<Deddly> Oh hey, I actually found a place that still distributes the 0.18.3 KSP demo
<Mod9000> I have a really old demo for Windows - https://www.dropbox.com/s/9vscaul3oroa1ta/KSP_demo_win.zip?dl=0
<Deddly> Yeah yeah, I know YOU have one, bot, but that's an older one
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<Deddly> There we go. Now, if anyone asks for the KSP demo, at least they get 0.18 instead of 0.15
<Mod9000> There's a really old Windows demo still kicking around https://www.moddb.com/games/kerbal-space-program/downloads/kerbal-space-program-demo-0-18-2
<Deddly> Oh right, they have a Mac one, too
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<Mat2ch> two days...
<Mat2ch> I can't bear it.
<Deddly> Is that going to be the best stream?
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<Althego> i doubt it
<Althego> spacex has its own stream
<Althego> probably a fewseconds ahead of nasa
<Althego> however there is no official link yet
<Deddly> So Nasa don't just stream Spacex's programme?
<Althego> probably
<Althego> that is why it would lag behind
<Deddly> Ah I see
<Mat2ch> SpaceX announces the stream links just a few hours
<Mat2ch> before launch
<Mat2ch> usually
<Althego> sometimes it is there long before
<Althego> but it is hidden in yt
<Althego> and you have to look for it in their twitter
<Mat2ch> It's called "Twitter feed" :P
<Althego> whatever
<Althego> same way as you never send an sms
<Mat2ch> They don't own their own twitter ;P
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<Althego> because short message service, so you use the service not send it
<Mat2ch> (sorry, I just hate it when people say it that way and make it too easy. "Look on my facebook". It's called "facebook page", you don't have your own facebook!)
<Deddly> You have to look for their twits
<Deddly> Mat2ch, my internet isn't working!
<Mat2ch> Deddly: "twits" is very close to chat rule infringement ;P
<Mat2ch> Deddly: and don't push it! :D
<Althego> hehe you just need to change one chat
<Althego> char
<Deddly> Twit is a legitimate English word
<Althego> and the japanese long tailed tit is a cute bird :)
<Deddly> Yes and they have a nice mushroom, too
<Deddly> That blew my mind, like most of his other videos
<sandbox> it's the title of a children's book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twits
<XXCoder> geez
<Mat2ch> If Black Holes stop time, how can they grow bigger over time? ;P
<Deddly> I've read it as a child
<Deddly> (The Twits)
<packbart> the point doesn't grow. its SOI does
<Deddly> It's a British thing
<packbart> often to be found in The Register's headlines
<packbart> unless the article is about boffins and their new enlightments in boffinry
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<UmbralRaptor> Does the bot get confused if I talk about the demoman in TF2?
<UmbralRaptor> good
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<Mat2ch> Althego: going back to words and meanings, I never thought about how Itzehoe must sound to an english speaker... ;)
<UmbralRaptor> That looks like a place name or something
<Eddi|zuHause> Mat2ch: with those names i'm never sure how they're actually spoken
<Eddi|zuHause> like, Soest vs. Moers
<Mat2ch> UmbralRaptor: it is. It's a small city north of Hamburg
<UmbralRaptor> ah
<Mat2ch> Eddi|zuHause: well, in this case you spell the oe as a short "o"
<Mat2ch> Should be similiar to Soest
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<Judge_Dedd> oe is like the Scandinavian Ø/Ö, isn't it?
<Judge_Dedd> (Pronounced like the English "er"
<Judge_Dedd> )
<Althego> Mat2ch: lol
<Mat2ch> Judge_Dedd: not in this case
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<Eddi|zuHause> Judge_Dedd: that's where the problem is. in standard german, "oe" is a standin for "ö"
<Eddi|zuHause> Judge_Dedd: but in these place names, they often use the dutch phonetics, where "oe" is just "o"
<Judge_Dedd> Ah
<Eddi|zuHause> Judge_Dedd: and you never know which one they happen to use
<Eddi|zuHause> it's not as bad as "Worcester", but a thing to be aware of :)
<Judge_Dedd> Haha, true :)
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<Althego> lol i like the red letters
<Althego> bold red letters. no douvbt without any effect
<Althego> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1217742268393607168 spaceship tank construction, circa 2020, colorized
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<Eddi|zuHause> looks like one of those 50's scifi pulp pictures, needs more pink
<Eddi|zuHause> or purple
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<Althego> somehow it has a strange fell to it. i cant really say what. maybe looks like props, or painting
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<Eddi|zuHause> what's with all the givaway spam in the replies?
<Althego> some recurring elon joke
<Althego> probably started by elon
<Althego> i didnt lok into it, but it has been going for a year at least
<Eddi|zuHause> i'm not usually around these parts of the internet, but looks like a scam to me...
<Althego> because it is not true
<Althego> hehe it turns out it is a real scam
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<Judge_Dedd> Yes, people have been doing that for ages
<Judge_Dedd> "Send me money, and I'll send you more back!"
<Althego> and it works
<Althego> i remember long time ago some scammers were doing that in eve too
<Judge_Dedd> I got so fed up with spam I deleted my Twitter account
<Althego> while mark hamill deleted his facevook account and kept his twitter
<Judge_Dedd> That was for a different reason and I'd love to comment on it but I think that starts getting out of bounds here
<Althego> meanwhile i never had facebook or twitter account
<Judge_Dedd> I never had Facebook and I only got Twitter because Elon must was saying interesting things that I couldn't read without having an account
<Althego> wait a sec, that plate on the top, it is so ksp style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A45PhO2WjMw
<Althego> i knew that the orange tank in the game was from the shuttle
<Judge_Dedd> Or, KSP could have used that image as reference for the art style
<Althego> bu i thought that plate waas just made up
<Judge_Dedd> Most, if not all, of KSP parts have a real-life counterpart, but that's the first time I've seen that one
<Althego> that image must be recent since it is about the sls, but i guess the part was around for a while before that
<Althego> similar surprise was that the surface scanner that opens the radar antenna on the two sides was from the venera probes
<Althego> at least from some
<Althego> i thought about that as an other game only part
<Althego> the small hexagonal was obviouslt from curiosity
<UmbralRaptop> RT-5 and 10 aren't based on anything, right?
<UmbralRaptop> hrm. tricoupler also?
<Judge_Dedd> I think that the tricoupler and RT-10 are leftover parts from the really early days where Harvester was just making most of the parts up to look like bits of scrap
<UmbralRaptop> yeah
<Judge_Dedd> So I expect the earliest parts are where we are most likely to find no real-life analogue
<Judge_Dedd> Back in the good old days when the game was going to be limited to sounding rockets and Harvester liked it how joints were wobbly :D
<Althego> hehe
<Judge_Dedd> Source: The KSP thread in the Orbiter forums
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<Althego> but actually i think somewobliness should be there
<Althego> otherwise you are just flying a brick
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<packbart> Althego: looks like NASA discovered TweakScale and just resized the 2.5m Rockomax adapter
<Althego> hehehe
<Mostly_Deddly> Althego, I think a slight wobbliness is probably realistic, but flying rockets with a keyboard isn't very realistic, either, and as long as SAS is as limited as it is, I think wobbliness just makes the game unnecessarily difficult sometimes
<raptop> You'd think that with tweakscale, someone would have just made a seadragon already
<raptop> (IRL. I'm sure it exists in KSP)
<raptop> Mostly_Deddly: I'm still vaguely bitter that stock doesn't have user tunable PIDs
<Mostly_Deddly> Oh right, real life. I was about to post a bunch of links
<Mostly_Deddly> But if you're adding Pelvic Inflammatory Disease, why not other diseases as well? ;)
* raptop slaps Mostly_Deddly around with a mechanical jeb
<Mostly_Deddly> Hehe
<Althego> hehe
<Mostly_Deddly> Wow that sends me way back. I used to go to an IRC channel back in the '90s where a bot would slap you around with a kipper
<Althego> i am kind of partial to state space control
* raptop manually types the objects for trout-slap style things >_>;;
<Althego> maybe state feedback or sliding mode
<raptop> hm
<raptop> !choose have Val do a low munar flyby|probe to Minmus|wait for Jeb to return|design a heavier launcher
<raptop> oh, right. That bot's in another channel
<Althego> the princess is in another castle
<raptop> Right, I'll alert Bowser that this one is a trap
<Mostly_Deddly> raptop, according to decisionbot, no to Low munar flyby, DO send a probe to Minmus, not wait for Jeb to return, and design a heavier launcher, while you still can.
<raptop> heh
<Mostly_Deddly> Oh wait, it has multiple choices, I didn't need to do them one by one
<Mostly_Deddly> raptop, "Wait for Jeb to return by a nose."
<Mostly_Deddly> Also, interesting fact, Mr Bean beats Stallone.
<Althego> how, in what contest?
<Mostly_Deddly> Althego, Decisionbot in "vs mode", Stallone vs Mr Bean: Fight
<Althego> mr bean is fictional, stallone exists
<Mostly_Deddly> I've seen Mr Bean on TV
* raptop puts in Reimu and Marisa
<raptop> "Reimu. That one was too easy."
<Althego> hehe
<Mostly_Deddly> raptop vs Althego: "Raptop wins again. Surely there must be a more worthy challenger."
<Althego> hehe
<raptop> ow
<raptop> Incidentally, Reimu beats Okuu but not Flan
* raptop ignores that this is random
<Althego> hehe
<Mostly_Deddly> It actually has a serious mode, too
<Mostly_Deddly> You can put in pros and cons and give each aspect a weight as to how important it is, and it will calculate a decision based on that
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<transit> Test
<transit> Bwoop
<transit> Having trouble connecting
* raptop plugs a cat-7 cable into transit
<transit> 👀
<raptop> humans have RJ-45 jacks in the back of their necks, right?
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<transit> Several
<raptop> Excellent
<transit> Is a router
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<Althego> betwen disconnects
<transit> Well, I’m switching between apps
<transit> Before it wouldn’t connect at all
<Althego> dont tell me its an iphone too
<transit> iPhone 8
<Althego> hehe
* raptop does a lot of IRC from my phone (Nexus 5X), but disconnect silliness only happens around iffy wifi
<Althego> irc never disconnected for me on android or old winmo
<transit> 🚲📲
<raptop> It had problems on my Treo, but PalmOS never really did multitasking
<transit> I think the WiFi here has IRC blocked
<umaxtu> your 5x hasn't bricked yet?
<raptop> umaxtu: my replacement one hasn't
<raptop> The one I actually bought back in 2016 did so in mid 2017. The one Google sent me has somehow survived
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<umaxtu> my entire family's replacements did it also
<Althego> oh no an event horizon episode
<Althego> it can wait until tomorrow
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* raptop is apparently lucky or something
<raptop> Or something, given the phone's performance issues
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<transit> There was one early stylus based phone that I was looking at around the same time the iPhone came out
<transit> Unsure of the brand, but it had very good battery life
<transit> May have been a crackbrrry or a Palm
<transit> Perhaps a Motorola
<transit> If I saw it I’d recognise it
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<transit> The motorola A780 maybe
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<packbart> Nokia N900 was nice but had its flaws, too. pocket linux computer
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<darsie> One way ticket to Duna: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot104.png
<darsie> Pilots only.
<darsie> 2917 VF
<darsie> 400 VF refund for the clamps.
<UmbralRaptop> smol probe
<darsie> Smål
<darsie> Hmm, getting to orbit would have been easier if I had put less fuel in the tanks.
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