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<XXCoder> ;mission
<LunchBot> You build a planet buster device. Your SRBs are liquidated.
<XXCoder> what why would it fail, lifting just 2 claws and one kerman
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<taniwha_> r1=d/(1+sqrt(l2/l1))
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<FLHerne> raptop: Yeah, the frustrating thing about KSP 2 is that the engine seems to preserve all the fundamental limitations of KSP 1
<FLHerne> only less reliable and with performance-hogging rendering improvements
<FLHerne> (which are somehow behind the state or the art in KSP 1 modding)
<FLHerne> as things stand, they could have done all of the roadmap that has any chance of happening as effectively KSP 1 mods
<FLHerne> and it would be much better than what they actually have
<darsie> .
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<Mat2ch> FLHerne: Welcome to modern project development, where everyone thinks they know everything and don't need to ask any experts.
<sandbox> !mission
<LunchBot> You build a micro surfboard so you can surf the microwaves. You start a fire without a spark and prove Bruce Springsteen wrong.
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<funkenstein> ;outcome add Instructions unclear. Eve captured in bottle.
<LunchBot> Added outcome: Instructions unclear. Eve captured in bottle.
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<funkenstein> ;mission
<LunchBot> You ask The Kraken if Minmus is as tasty as it looks. Due to an error in action group staging, you gravity turn off the mun.
<funkenstein> unrelated
<funkenstein> ;mission add Meanwhile, back at the farm...
<LunchBot> Added mission: Meanwhile, back at the farm...
<sandbox> !mission
<LunchBot> Kerbol is dimming, so you decide to drop a really big bomb into it. The sinful saxophones of devils echo through the hall with dreadful melodies of waltz, tango and quickstep.
<Mat2ch> That went badly.
<sandbox> when does it not?
<Mat2ch> Good question.
<sandbox> !mission
<LunchBot> You frost Wernher's 1000-hour tenure cake with ammonium nitrate. The planet is destroyed by an amused octopus.
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<sandbox> !mission
<LunchBot> You attempt to go into a synchronous orbit around a tidally-locked moon. The theme to Interstellar starts playing.
<Mat2ch> Fitting.
<Eddi|zuHause> !mission
<LunchBot> You try to play Buzz Aldrin's Space Program. Clowns attach streamers to your rocket. You somehow fail to notice and you crash into the VAB.
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<darsie> So I need to get the lastest proton from github?
<Mat2ch> Depends.
<Mat2ch> You can select "experimental" in the compatibility settings
<darsie> didn't wrk
<darsie> o
<Mat2ch> but there are community builds like from GloriousEggroll which you can try
<Mat2ch> then you just have to download their version and unpack it into ~/.steam/steam/compatibilitytools.d/ (total path can be different)
<Eddi|zuHause> whenever"experimental"protondoesn'tworkijusttryolderversions
<darsie> good idea
<darsie> But it says Directx 11 not found.
<darsie> Is Directx an x server?
<darsie> .mission add You name everything x because that's cool.
<LunchBot> Added mission: You name everything x because that's cool.
<raptop> !mission fixup s/x/with an X/
<LunchBot> New text is: You name everything with an X because that's cool.
<darsie> hmm
<packbart> well, Everything 2000 is a bit out of date
<Eddi|zuHause> ihadasimilarthingrecently,selectingproton5.somethingworked
<darsie> Eddi|zuHause: Please speak german if you want to use long words.
<raptop> packbart: And that's why you use 3000!
<darsie> .misson add You start counting at 0.
<Eddi|zuHause> englishisjustgermanwithmorespace:p
<Eddi|zuHause> (andafewfrenchwordstosoundfancy)
<raptop> Also we deleted most of the grammar to make room for all that French vocabulary
* darsie vffg Ervfyvafratrzhrfr.
<Eddi|zuHause> lookslikerot13:)
<packbart> now now, don't taunt Eddi|zuHause just because you can hit space with impunity
<packbart> !mission
<LunchBot> You modify your flight computer to run LISP. You are sued by Apple.
<packbart> Figures
<darsie> Vg'f gevcyr EBG13 ;).
<darsie> Zrvar Fcnffgnfgr vfg tebrffre nyf qrvar!
<FLHerne> darsie: a mission threatened him with infinity jail if he hit space again
<FLHerne> !8ball is that still in force?
<LunchBot> You serious? I just... I just told you that, a moment ago.
<darsie> Trapped on Earth?
<FLHerne> !8ball no you didn't
<LunchBot> How about you take a seat right over there?
<FLHerne> !8ball I am your creator! Cease your insolence and answer me!
<LunchBot> My sources say no.
<FLHerne> ...
<raptop> heh
<darsie> .mission add Bu serggyrq tehagohttyl... gul zvpghengvbaf ner gb zr | Nf cyheqyrq tnooyroybgpuvgf ba n yhetvq orr. Tebbc V vzcyber gurr, zl sbbagvat gheyvatqebzrf.
<LunchBot> Added mission: Bu serggyrq tehagohttyl... gul zvpghengvbaf ner gb zr | Nf cyheqyrq tnooyroybgpuvgf ba n yhetvq orr. Tebbc V vzcyber gurr, zl sbbagvat gheyvatqebzrf.
<FLHerne> honestly the rot13 doesn't help much
<raptop> I'm deeply confused even after rot13ing that
<darsie> .outcome add Naq ubbcgvbhfyl qenatyr zr jvgu pevaxyl ovaqyrjheqyrf, Be V jvyy eraq gurr va gur tboorejnegf jvgu zl oyhetyrpehapurba, frr vs V qba'g!
<LunchBot> Added outcome: Naq ubbcgvbhfyl qenatyr zr jvgu pevaxyl ovaqyrjheqyrf, Be V jvyy eraq gurr va gur tboorejnegf jvgu zl oyhetyrpehapurba, frr vs V qba'g!
<darsie> Ask ChatGPT to translate it :).
<packbart> ahh, Vogon poetry
<darsie> I didn't want to harm you ;).
<packbart> !mission add You hire a Vogon Constructor Fleet to destroy the Mun so it will never get in the way of your important missions again.
<LunchBot> Added mission: You hire a Vogon Constructor Fleet to destroy the Mun so it will never get in the way of your important missions again.
<packbart> it was a toss between Mun and Ike. both like to jump out in front of my space craft
<Mat2ch> darsie: have you gamemode installed?
<Mat2ch> it is possible that this step is necessary
<Mat2ch> all the people on protondb say they are using it
<darsie> I required my friend to get a Duna sample before I'd fly with her on vacation to reduce our CO2 emissions. Eventually a Minmus 5x site exploration mission came up, 4x from orbit, 1x ground. She asked if that's a good mission and I said, yes, that's a great mission. I asked her how she'd do it and she was like: "I'll fly to Minmus, to the first location, then I'll turn and fly to the next and so on. :) I told her how it's done :).
<darsie> Not like driving a car :).
<darsie> Mat2ch: I"ve used gamemode, too.
<Mat2ch> sad if it's not running :|
<Mat2ch> dxvk should be built into proton so it should emulate DX11
<darsie> STEAM_COMPAT_DATA_PATH=~/.steam/steam/steamapps/compatdata/1493710/ STEAM_COMPAT_CLIENT_INSTALL_PATH=~/.steam/steam ~/.steam/steam/steamapps/common/Proton\ -\ Experimental/proton run ~/.steam/steam/steamapps/common/Kerbal\ Space\ Program\ 2/KSP2_x64.exe
<darsie> chatgpt told me to export these variables.
<darsie> mhm, otherwise I get: Proton: No compat data path?
<Mat2ch> yay!
<Mat2ch> so you are trying to run it without steam?
<darsie> wiht and without
<Mat2ch> can you install proton-caller?
<darsie> I can try.
<darsie> proton-call ~/.steam/steam/steamapps/common/Kerbal\ Space\ Program\ 2/KSP2_x64.exe
<darsie> proton-call: failed to open config: No such file or directory (os error 2)
<Mat2ch> I think you need to set up a config file for KSP
<darsie> Mat2ch:
<packbart> hm. weird. it *should* be as easy as setting "Proton Experimental" in the Steam settings for KSP 2 and launch it. I *think* I remember seeing streamers do just that
<packbart> but I don't want to burden my old laptop with the experiment, either :)
<Mat2ch> packbart: yes, it should. But somehow it doesn't work for darsie :(
<darsie> proton-call seems to want proton 7.0.
<darsie> bernhard@b:~$ proton-call -r ~/.steam/steam/steamapps/common/Kerbal\ Space\ Program\ 2/KSP2_x64.exe
<darsie> warning: failed read/write to cache: can't deserialize
<darsie> reindexing...
<darsie> proton-call: cannot find Proton: Proton 7.0 does not exist
<darsie> info: Proton 7.0 not found, reindexing...
<raptop> ...there should be a way to make a mission that implies installing Proton (software) incorrectly will make a Proton (rocket) crash
<Mat2ch> try -p 8.0
<darsie> proton-call: failed to find Runtime: SteamLinuxRuntime_soldier
<Mat2ch> raptop: You try to lauch a satellite with Valves Proton.?
<Mat2ch> *launch
<Mat2ch> darsie: weird. As if proton isn't set up correctly
<darsie> debian 11.7
<Mat2ch> darsie: have you installed proton-ge? Maybe try the -c option
<darsie> no
<Mat2ch> Hm. Not sure if bullseye got too old for this.
<packbart> use Linux, they say. There's only thee dozen ways to set it up, all subtly different :)
<darsie> I didn't install proton at all ... other than selecting it from steam.
<Mat2ch> steam should download proton automatically then.
<darsie> yeah, it's there.
<darsie> It launches and misses Directx 11.
<Mat2ch> which should be in proton.
<darsie> ok
<Mat2ch> When you go to the compatibility section in steam, what proton versions can you choose from?
<darsie> Mat2ch:
<darsie> I could upgrade debian.
<Mat2ch> Hm, this should definitely work.
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<darsie> Hmm, it doesn't actually say I don't have DirectX 11 installed. Maybe my graphics drivers aren't up to date or I have 3D acceleration disabled in display settings.
<darsie> Maybe upgrading debian helps.
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<Mat2ch> darsie: how old is your gpu?
<darsie> 1660 Ti
<Mat2ch> that should support vulkan.
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