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<hatrix> I'll hope I'll get to that level soon Mat2ch, I'm stuck with stupid bases I can't land on Eve :)
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<hatrix> also I've been here yesterday, that's the Payload Operations Control Centre of the spectrometer AMS on the ISS: https://i.imgur.com/hr3tvHz.jpg
<hatrix> sadly I just passed by and didn't have time to enter the building, I'll go back take some pictures
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<Mat2ch> hatrix: well, it's not easier :)
<Mat2ch> Also landing your base... just bring enough retro-rockets to slow down at Eve ;)
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<Mat2ch> it seems as if 1.9 has introduced a few bugs. Danny has fun with it :D
<Mat2ch> https://youtu.be/RLrflhr9mIw?t=125 I noticed that, too
<Mat2ch> and it's annoying if you want to dock
<hatrix> I'm really impressed by his flying skills with the arms attached
<Mat2ch> Oh, Danny has a few thousand hours in KSP...
<Mat2ch> master of disaster.
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Judge_Dedd changed the topic of #KSPOfficial to: Kerbal Space Program official channel | KSP 1.⑨, NaN is doing| Rules: tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | "modcall" to call ops | Δ🅅 maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | Type "chanlog" for logs | Starlink 4 today 15:05 GMT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xeX62mLcf8
Judge_Dedd changed the topic of #KSPOfficial to: Kerbal Space Program official channel | KSP 1.⑨, NaN is doing | Rules: tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | "modcall" to call ops | Δ🅅 maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | Type "chanlog" for logs | Starlink 4 today 15:05 GMT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xeX62mLcf8
<Judge_Dedd> That missing space was driving me crazy
<Althego> nan is doing?
<Althego> nan is not doing ,allah is doing :)
<Judge_Dedd> :)
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<packbart> The chronicles of NaNia
<Judge_Dedd> Have we heard anything about the results from the Starlink stealth test?
<Mat2ch> nope
<Althego> stealth test?
<Althego> teh anti reflection coating thing?
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<Mostly_Deddly> Althego, yeah, that. But I insist on calling it stealth technology because Elon Musk is going to invade from Mars in 50 years
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<UmbralRaptop> Formally not that I've heard of. Informally, amateur astronomers couldn't see any difference between darksat and the rest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<Mostly_Deddly> Oh really? Interesting.
<Althego> lol invasion
<Althego> and he could disrupt half of the internet with simply turning off his satellite network
<Mostly_Deddly> UmbralRaptop, but how could they know? I mean, if they're looking at it and can identify it as darker, one might assume there is some difference between them.
<Mostly_Deddly> Althego, we all know Elon is a sci-fi fan. What were all the early sci-fi films about? I rest my case ;)
<UmbralRaptop> They *couldn't* identify it as darker, and were going by orbital elements or position in the satellite train
<Althego> attack of the martians?
<kmath> YouTube - Starlink Mission
<Mat2ch> 50 min
<Althego> eh
<Althego> the launch is happenning just before i get off the bus
<Mostly_Deddly> UmbralRaptop, Sorry, I meant if they could identify which one the "darker" one is. But of course, they can count - I wasn't thinking straight.
<Mat2ch> Althego: I'm not sure if the launch is in 50 min or the stream...
<Mostly_Deddly> Link is also in the description, just sayin' ;)
<Althego> launch is around 16:05 europe
<Althego> so in around 53 minutes
<Althego> the stream starts a bit sooner
<Mostly_Deddly> Stream is live in 52 minutes, launch in 53, according to nextrocket.space...
<Althego> no, the live coounter is the launch time
<Althego> they just start the stream before the live counter goes to zero
<Mostly_Deddly> That's an odd way of doing things
<Althego> around 10-15 minutes before
<Althego> this is how they roll :)
<Althego> or launch, whatever
<Mostly_Deddly> I demand conformity!
<Althego> can i use a bridged interface in an ec2 instance?
<Mostly_Deddly> You're right, though. The video description says 15:05
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<Judge_Dedd> I didn't understand most of the words you just used
<Mat2ch> ec2 is some Amazon cloud thing
<Althego> the problem is i get many google hits each doing something differently
<Mat2ch> an interface means "network interface", which is the software representation of something that makes thingies speak to another
<Mat2ch> and a bridge is putting two or more together so they get all the data combiend
<Althego> a lot worse than this. i need this for lxcs running in an ec2 instance
<Mat2ch> *combined
<Mat2ch> and lxc is a container format, like docker, virtualbox, vmware, but not running a full kernel themself
<Mat2ch> Judge_Dedd: need more info?
<Althego> lol
<Mat2ch> :D
<Mat2ch> I'm bored
<Mat2ch> need a project
<Judge_Dedd> Thanks for the info :)
<Mat2ch> and just as I said this a mail arrived letting me now that I'm considered for a project but the selection process is taking a bit longer
<Mat2ch> wow
<Mat2ch> Judge_Dedd: You're welcome
<packbart> Althego: I'd say: why should a bridge not work on EC2?
<Mat2ch> And I say: Just try it. If it doesn't work, get your money back. :P
<Judge_Dedd> Any statistics people here? Is there any difference between "raster analysis" and "analysis raster"?
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<Judge_Dedd> Guess not :)
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<Mat2ch> 15 minutes
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<Mat2ch> 2 minutes till launch
<darsie> till live stream
<kmath> YouTube - Starlink Mission
<darsie> live in 49 min.
<packbart> wrong timeline
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<hatrix> oops missed it
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<Judge_Dedd> Ooh landing fail
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<packbart> You will not come back from space today
<Mat2ch> was a very steap landing, so they probably didn't have enough fuel
<Judge_Dedd> I love the drops of water that hit the camera
<Mat2ch> and if you look at the launch it looks like their trajectory wasn't that optimal, the engines weren't firing straight most of the time
<Mat2ch> hrhr
<hatrix> where the booster at
<Mat2ch> and what was that thing floating away shortly before the Reentry Burn?
<Judge_Dedd> Timestamp?
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<Althego> hehe it sure landed somewhere
<Althego> probabléy next to the ship
<Mat2ch> Judge_Dedd: hard to tell in a live stream
<Mat2ch> wait
<darsie> Dang, youtube showed me wrong stream launch time instead of starting the stream.
<Althego> the plumes were visible and some water droplets from th splash on the camera
<darsie> Watching now.
<packbart> yeah, there were some clouds next to the barge
<Mat2ch> T+00:05:054
<hatrix> what was the booster's name?
<Mat2ch> T+00:05:54
<Althego> it landed right before i arrived to the house, obviously worst timing
<darsie> Miss Chief :)
<Althego> argh
<Althego> next time call it loki. the god of mischief
<Mat2ch> Miss Chief is the name of the fairing catching ship
<Althego> there are two
<hatrix> ah there it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B1056
<Mat2ch> Ms Tree?
<hatrix> rip B1056
<Judge_Dedd> Mat2ch, I think it's frost buildup
<hatrix> feel free to be the firsts to edit the page
<Mat2ch> Judge_Dedd: possible. But it looks like rubber...
<Judge_Dedd> T+9 looks like it landed just off to the right and maybe fell over
<Mat2ch> Judge_Dedd: it does this sometimes on purpose, when the computer finds something off
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<darsie> Must be a pun on mischief :).
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<Judge_Dedd> Mat2ch, yeah, like the one that had hydraulic problems and landed just offshore some time ago
<Althego> that was cool
<Althego> was spinning
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<Judge_Dedd> Althego, I was watching that live - I was heartbroken when they cut the video feed D:
<Althego> even elon admitted that was a wrong move
<Judge_Dedd> Yeah.
<Judge_Dedd> Actually, he said it wasn't on his command that they cut it
<kmath> YouTube - Elon Musk in Interstellar - parody mashup
<Judge_Dedd> Althego, LOL that was fabulously done
<Althego> it was out a few days after the incident
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<Judge_Dedd> I like it how the video creator asks people to subscribe and he only has this one single video in his entire feed
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<Judge_Dedd> So, Starlink currently consists of well over 200 satellites, 180 discounting the first launch of "beta" hardware. How many do they need in order to begin offering service?
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<Tank2333_> i heard numbers around 750 or so
<Mat2ch> 1584 in the first stage
<Althego> isnt it 300 with the initial thing?
<Althego> or was it only 240?
<Althego> yhey want around what, 15000 such satellites?
<Althego> they also communicate among themselves
<Althego> so probably few hundred is not really cutting it for usable service
<Mat2ch> 11867
<Mat2ch> it's a weird number, but I guess there's a reason for it
<Althego> hehe
<Tank2333_> 42
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<Tank2333_> they have to realy keep pushing to get to 11867
<darsie> Maybe fewer sats are sufficient for lower bandwidth.
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<darsie> Elon will get mad if he causes Kessler syndrome and makes Mars colonization impossible.
<Althego> yes probably it is operational with around 1000
<Mat2ch> 1584 ;P
<Althego> the also want to launch bigger batches with the starship
<Mat2ch> Which means 30 launches or so in total, when the v0.9s are deorbited
<Althego> which is almost free since you get back the second stage too
<Althego> hmm i may have dns problems
<Mat2ch> but then the Starship needs to make inclination changes
<Althego> no, then wikipedia has some problems
<Mat2ch> wikipedia has some issues
<Mat2ch> but it's working again for me
<Judge_Dedd> Elon says interlink between satellites is not needed for service, because they can relay signals through ground stations
<Mat2ch> But if the usable load is really 150t then they could launch 500-600 sats per launch...
<Judge_Dedd> That would be quite something
<Mat2ch> *usable load to LEO
<Althego> LOAD"*",8,1
<packbart> that's not a usable LOAD anymore
<Judge_Dedd> IKEA should get in on the flat-pack satellite business
<Althego> hehe
<Tank2333_> whats the progress on starship right now?
<Althego> in many pieces
<Althego> finalizing process
<Althego> but spacex is very good in creating new processes
<Tank2333_> true
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<Mat2ch> Tank2333: we can't tell. since Mary is on vacation and Jack is not yet at the site to show us the progress ;)
<Althego> there was some rumor that elon wants to send a starship to mars this window
<darsie> With a tesla?
<Althego> hehe
<darsie> No, cybertruck :)
<Althego> i doubt they can finish it even
<Althego> not to mention about tests
<darsie> I want Elon to make renewable methane.
<darsie> From CO2 or biomatter.
<Althego> how
<darsie> Gotta develop ISRU, anyways.
<darsie> Put up some solar panels, electrolyse some water ...
<Althego> do it with bacteria :)
<Althego> they have been doing it far longer :)
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<Althego> scott
<Althego> about you know what
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<Althego> hmm, 2 days ago a bunch of videos were uploaded to the mars society youtube. now i have to watch them
<Mat2ch> Tylo is hard.
<Mat2ch> Harder than Eve
<Mat2ch> because everyone know that Eve is hard.
<Mat2ch> I fear I'm stranded on Tylo...
<Mat2ch> *everyone knows
<Mat2ch> If you're ever going to land at Tylo: Bring vectors, nothing else.
<Althego> at least you can land relatively easily on eve. tylo is hard in both directions
<Mat2ch> You need the TWR...
<Mat2ch> Otherwise the cosine losses will destroy every calculation.
<Mat2ch> also KSP gets very very slow if you switch vessels often
<Althego> scene change in general causes that
<Mat2ch> I don't know why
<Mat2ch> it seems to get unloaded and loaded again
<Althego> after running ksp a whole day and switching to launch and revert to vab for desing changes
<Mat2ch> there is no reason to be that slow
<Mat2ch> why programmed this? ;P
<Althego> every scene change happens with snail speed
<Althego> and you dont notice it, because it happens gradually
<Althego> until it is just endless wait
<Judge_Dedd> Wait... so each scene change gets longer and longer?
<Althego> yes
<Judge_Dedd> I have honestly never noticed
<Althego> happens after a long time
<Judge_Dedd> Is that a known issue?
<Althego> so not flying but designing for 10-12 hours
<Althego> launch, revert launch revert
<Judge_Dedd> That's most of my KSP game right there
<Judge_Dedd> But I don't do it got 10 hours straight.
<Althego> 10 hours is not even that long
<Judge_Dedd> got = for
<Judge_Dedd> Curse my muscle memory
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<hatrix> everything went fine! https://imgur.com/a/c80M1K3
<hatrix> I did time warp too much though
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<Fluburtur> dedd is not doing, allah is doing
<lordcirth> Pls no
<UmbralRaptor> That which is not doing may eternal lie
<darsie> hatrix: You launched with modules protuding like this? You lose points for bad style.
<darsie> What is this even?
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