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<darsie>
oops, 1.10 crashed.
<raptop>
oh no
<darsie>
I have 3 mods that are not certified for 1.10, though.
<darsie>
KER, EEX, dated quicksaves.
<darsie>
It just suddenly quit and disappeared.
* raptop
is sad that I never figured out how to effectively use kRPC
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<darsie>
With my "first" (in this game) Minmus lab.
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<darsie>
I mounted some reaction wheels on the bottom of a fuel tank next to the engine and they had high drag, even though the tank should have shielded them from wind. So I guess the wind goes through the tank.
<Guest77346>
Guys
<darsie>
girls
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<German>
hello
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<Mod9000>
Hello, German
<Judge_Dedd>
Hey there
<German>
Hello
<German>
Guys
<Mod9000>
Hello, German
<German>
is there a good space x mod pack
<Judge_Dedd>
Oh, definitely
<German>
Can i have a link to it
<German>
cause i wanna get it
<Judge_Dedd>
But I'm not using mods at the moment, so I'll see if one of the others here knows the best one to link to
<German>
And another question
<Judge_Dedd>
OK sure
<German>
if i get a grapich inchant meant on mac
<German>
2014 mac
<German>
do u think it will cradh
<German>
crash it
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<darsie>
Did you spell correctly?
<German>
No
<German>
Graphic
<German>
Inchantment
<Judge_Dedd>
Well, some computers from 2014 were really powerful. It really depends how much RAM you have
<Judge_Dedd>
Graphics enhancement
<German>
how do u check for ram
<darsie>
Enchantment is magic.
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<Judge_Dedd>
On a Mac.. hmm. I don't have one, sorry. But I bet you could find that pretty easily on google by searching for "how do I see how much ram I have on a mac"
<German>
ok
<darsie>
There's this "About this Mac" thing.
<darsie>
I don't have a mac, either.
<Judge_Dedd>
German, but really, why not just download the mod you want and see if it works?
<German>
ok
<darsie>
Stock KSP 1.10 works fine on an i7 3770, 16 GB, GTX 750 Ti PC here.
<German>
I have an i5
<darsie>
Better than on my previous core2 quad 3 GHz, 8 GB, quadro FX 1800.
<German>
yes
<German>
my is 2 cores
<German>
i5
<German>
5000
<German>
gpu is 5000
<German>
intel gpu 5000
<Judge_Dedd>
OK, so I think you will have trouble running graphics enhancement mods, but you can try and see how it goes.
<Judge_Dedd>
If it works, it will probably look great but run slowly. But you can try :)
<German>
i am tring to installprobe plus
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<Judge_Dedd>
Bye
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<darsie>
.
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<Althego>
i was putting off throwing out of the useless stuff from the shelf behind my back for years, finally i did it
<Althego>
still didnt start ksp 1.10 though
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<darsie>
My Minmus lab is on landing legs. When it comes out of time warp it jumps a bit and if I do the time warp again while it's jumping it dives into Minmus a bit and explodes.
<packbart>
time-pumping also overheats mining rigs, sometimes
<packbart>
MechJeb's Autoland does that, skipping ahead in tiny increments :/
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<FLHerne>
Timewarp can cause some really weird nonsense :-/
<FLHerne>
Quicksave, too
<FLHerne>
I had a couple of quicksaves where I saved while flying level at 2000ft, and on load the plane would dive directly into the ground from ~100ft and explode
<FLHerne>
Of course, there was that series of releases where legs and wheels would just become unstable and explode for no reason at all
<FLHerne>
1.2.x?
<Althego>
hehe video uploaded 9 seconds ago. i was never this early
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<darsie>
Hmm, shipping fuel from Gilly to LEO might be easier than pushing an asteroid to LEO.
<Althego>
hehe leo in this case is low eve orbit
<darsie>
:)
<darsie>
Who here did a precision landing on Eve, to rendezvous with some other craft or an egg.
<darsie>
I guess it's easy with a plane. If it deorbits.
<Althego>
i didnt do really high precision, but the lander had a plane to compensate for it :)
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<flayer>
i've never made a non-orbital plane with a rocket engine + oxidizer
<FLHerne>
I built a few to get those high-altitude measurements at low tech levels
<FLHerne>
Later I figured out how to do that with just Wheesley/Juno jets, so eh
<raptop>
You can in principle do a lot of early career measurements with 1-2 SRBs (RT-5 or RT-10), but getting the trajectory right is, uh, non-trivial
<raptop>
(Or it probably would be trivial if I properly modeled the atmosphere)
<darsie>
The early career measurements were fun when I was new to KSP. Nowadays I skip them.
<darsie>
And get bored.
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<Guest10384>
Does it take long until a mod accepts my post?
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<darsie>
More than 34 s.
<Althego>
hehe
<Althego>
still, there is room for improvement, somebody has to beat the 2 s quit time
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<packbart>
ah, I didn't read the instructions. the Vector must be lit on the runway
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<Guest35465>
I'm slowly learning to move the kerbals around on the ground, and I think I've got it all, but it seems like no matter what mode I'm in, the Q and E keys don't work to get them to turn left or right. I tried binding keypad 7 and 9 to the same motion and that doesn't work either. Is there a bug, or am I missing something?
<FLHerne>
They follow the mouse view direction
* FLHerne
tries whether Q/E do anything here
<darsie>
Unless you disable that.
<Guest35465>
I can get the same effect of turning by moving the camera with the arrow keys and/or holding down a forward/back and left/right key at the same time, but it seems like Q and E should work as well.
<Guest35465>
I don't think I disabled anything.
<darsie>
It works in space.
<Guest35465>
but not on the ground???
<darsie>
dunno
<FLHerne>
Not just you
<Guest35465>
ok, nice to know it's not something personal. :-)
<FLHerne>
On the ground, WASD seem to always be relative to the camera, rather than the direction they're facing
<darsie>
Hmm, what happens if you take off the helmet and then cheat a Kerbal into space?
<FLHerne>
They die, probably
<FLHerne>
You can do that with an external seat and no cheating
<FLHerne>
In which case they die, definitely
<darsie>
Yeah, I remember that.
<Guest35465>
how does one cheat a kerbal into space??? I'm a newbie (as if you couldn't tell)
<darsie>
right shift F12
<darsie>
Or whatever you use instead of right shift.
<Guest35465>
I'm on Win10; all I see when I use right-shift+F12 is a message about the aerodynamic overlay enabled/disabled. Kerbal's still firmly grounded.
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<darsie>
Try other qualifier keys, then.
<FLHerne>
Wiki says that's ⎇ Alt on Windows
<raptop>
yeah, it's alt+F12 in windows
<FLHerne>
Weird, I disabled "EVAs auto-rotate to camera"
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<FLHerne>
And they *still* auto-rotate to follow the camera, ignoring Q/E, when walking about :p
<FLHerne>
_/T\_
<Guest35465>
Huh... Alt-F12 just toggles a console window with events listed.
<darsie>
Now go to cheats/set orbit
<Guest35465>
Ah! Okay, I think I'm getting it now...
<Guest35465>
Hah! Jeb's in orbit! That's funny. And I'm easily amused.
<Guest35465>
Ok, so now I can experiment some more. And probably have to accept that Q/E don't work on the ground. Thanks!
<darsie>
Cause unfortunately you can't cheat someone/thing to ground.
<Guest35465>
Aw crud ... you can cheat him back from orbit???
<Guest35465>
*can't
<darsie>
I don't think so
<Guest35465>
oops ... typed without looking at the screen. Huh. This ought to be fun...
<darsie>
.
<FLHerne>
Jeb does have a parachute in the current version, at least?
<FLHerne>
So all you have to do is not burn up :p
<FLHerne>
Which beats the old "land on his head and hope for the best" approach
<Guest35465>
Okay, so I'm trying to set a maneuver node and I'm getting the "Cannot add maneuver node (control locked)" message. What did I mess up this time?
<darsie>
You don't have a computer.
<Guest35465>
Ah! so just gotta eyeball it ... seat of the pants flying. Thanks (again)!
<darsie>
Or no antenna.
<Guest35465>
Well, it IS just a space suit so I guess no to both...
<Guest35465>
:-)
<darsie>
Guest35465: Did you make it?
<Guest35465>
I may chicken out ... I've got Jeb up there on a side game, not my main/career mode, so it's no big deal if I just terminate all the way, but I should probably go thru with it and see what happens.
<darsie>
I was jk before. You probably can save a previous state.
<Guest35465>
I didn't burn nearly as much propellant as the instructions said, but the Periapsis is gone so I know he's gonna come down...
<darsie>
Fool :)
<darsie>
You gonna burn.
<Guest35465>
Ha! Yep ....
<darsie>
gn
<Guest35465>
Now THAT was the cutest little explosion I've ever seen! LOL
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<FLHerne>
There's definitely a bug where "maneuver node locked" appears intermittently even with full control