<Althego>
yes i aws looking atthat a few minutes ago
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<Eddi|zuHause>
i can never remember this... in which direction does the mun surface move underneath me?
<Althego>
freom west to east?
<darkie>
When looking from North down at Mun, it orbits around Kerbin and rotates CCW.
<darkie>
Tidally locked to Kerbin.
<darkie>
So no direkt signal link to Kerbin from the far side ever.
<Eddi|zuHause>
i'm trying to catch some "spaceflight above X m" measurements from a polar orbit
<darkie>
Should work. Might need a little plane change.
<darkie>
You can observe the rotation ;).
<Eddi|zuHause>
wondering right now whether i should try to wait for the locations to pass underneath me
<darkie>
Saves fuel, wastes time ;).
<Eddi|zuHause>
i have snacks for 15 days
<Eddi|zuHause>
how long is a mun day?
<darkie>
One Munar orbit is ~7 days, IIRC, and you can cover all surface in half of that.
<darkie>
LOS may be an issue.
<Eddi|zuHause>
why?
<darkie>
If you want to use both orbit halves, one of which will not have line of sight to Kerbin. But you can cover the whole surface in 7 days with signal.
<Eddi|zuHause>
but i have a pilot on board, so loss of connectivity isn't really a problem
<darkie>
Ok.
<Eddi|zuHause>
also, my current orbit plane should be fully in range
<darkie>
You can also pick your departure to get the data quickly.
<flayer>
Eddi|zuHause, i see you are also a man of culture, playing with the snacks mod
<Eddi|zuHause>
i need to learn how to use these VTOL engines
<SporkWitch>
i've not tried doing a VTOL in kerbin gravity yet; EVERYTHING is vtol on minmus lol
<Eddi|zuHause>
so... i think that counts as a landing
<SporkWitch>
if your kerbals survive, it counts as a landing
<darkie>
I made a VTOL with the Juno.
<darkie>
What makes an engine VTOL?
<Eddi|zuHause>
it says "VTOL" on the label
<SporkWitch>
either extra engines mounted vertically, or a tilt-engine/wing setup
<darkie>
Whic engine says "VTOL" on the label
<SporkWitch>
literally just the ability to take off and land vertically and then shift to normal flight once airborne. STOL would mean it can't take off completely vertically, but can use a shorter runway by redirecting thrust (most VTOL aircraft will normally do this, as it's far more fuel-efficient than a purely vertical takeoff; they'll even only do that when the runway is short enough to require it)
<darkie>
Any jet engine can take off vertically, IMO.
<darkie>
At least in KSP.
<Althego>
if you have enough of it
<darkie>
Well, the craft has to have >1 TWR.
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<darkie>
Not sure if I circumnavigated Kerbin with one of these onec.
<darkie>
Equator=3770 km, Range=5164+ km.
<darkie>
Better range: 7249 km
<darkie>
"Since Jet engines rely on a turbine to compress fuel and atmosphere together in order to produce thrust ..." It's the compressor that compresses air, which then gets combusted and the exhaust drives the turbine.
<darkie>
But yeah, the compressor won't compress without the turbine.
<darkie>
"it takes time to change speed." It also takes time to change speed with rockets. But ... it takes time to change thrust.
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<raptop>
Althego: ...in retrospect, I shouldn't be surprised that the Hanako game I sometimes heard hololive-id is 花子さん
* raptop
is also at some point going to accidentally mess up the -id and -in country codes >_>;;
<SporkWitch>
WEEB
<Althego>
i didnt watch ollie's hanako stream
<SporkWitch>
:P
<raptop>
Duolingo: why do you want to learn Japanese? Me: uh, culture I guess
<SporkWitch>
confirmed: raptop wants to know what the tentacle monster is saying
<Althego>
says wah
<raptop>
Conveniently, ina mostly speaks english!
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<SporkWitch>
so i picked up trailmakers, i will temper my complaints bout KSP's aerodynamics from now on (i'll still complain, but it's definitely easier to control KSP planes lol)
<raptop>
yay
<SporkWitch>
definitely a fun game, though, especially the "transformers" aspect of it. You can hotkey 4 of your vehicle presets and switch between them on the fly
<raptop>
Also, I'm legally obligated to point out that ferram4 (yes, that ferram4) often flies planes using PWM
<SporkWitch>
i haven't really messed with ferram, much. I like the idea of planes actually handling like planes, but i'm wary of the added complication of dealing with super- and hypersonic flight dynamics
<SporkWitch>
if they could just get the weather-vane effect implemented, i'd be largely fine with the stock model
<Althego>
oh no, fauna started jump king, and irys will start it soon
<Althego>
i guess i have to watch these back on saturday