02:47 <SporkWitch> anybody played this? any good? https://store.steampowered.com/app/330460/Celestial_Command/

06:29 <UmbralRaptop> guess someone needs to find out?

06:55 <Althego> find out what

06:55 <darsie> .

08:52 <packbart> I tried EVE Online for a few days now but I don't think I'll like it

08:53 <packbart> and it's frelling expensive. 15€ per month subscription

12:37 <Althego> leet time

12:37 <Althego> (local)

14:28 <SporkWitch> packbart: i played for over a decade, but the game's gone downhill. instead of sticking to their guns and doing what was best for the game, they started listening to vocal whingers, destroying game balance

14:53 <Mat2ch> Why does that sound like 7 days to day, which got harder and harder, because the devs listend too much at the hardcore players?

14:53 <Mat2ch> *to the...

14:55 <SporkWitch> in this case the opposite, they listened to the carebears. The end result was to make it almost impossible for mid-size groups and fights to be viable. Solo became more efficient than small-to-medium sized groups, emphasiziing giant blobs being required to be a net benefit over solo.

14:57 <SporkWitch> i guess the first warning sign was when they abandoned the walking in stations content in response to people who didn't understand game development crying about how it was taking resources away from the core game (it wasn't; it was the same team that was working on the World of Darkness game, and all assets and tools for it were reusable between that game, EVE's walking-in-stations content, and

14:58 <SporkWitch> the PS3 game Dust 514, which they killed as well by 1) going console-only, 2) going with a microtransaction model instead of a subscription model, 3) match-based rather than persistent play

15:00 <sandbox> SporkWitch, which game was it you played for over a decade?

15:00 <SporkWitch> EVE Online

15:03 <SporkWitch> though since people are awake now, i'll ask what I asked last night :P

15:03 <SporkWitch> anyone played https://store.steampowered.com/app/330460/Celestial_Command/ ? Any good?

15:07 <Izaya> only briefly

15:07 <Izaya> worked well on linux / 10

15:08 <SporkWitch> worth the 20 bucks if i like KSP and the X-series?

15:08 <Izaya> maybe, I didn't get far into actually playing it

15:11 <Izaya> (sorry I'm not useful, but I don't remember feeling strongly about it one way or the other, so it wasn't bad but it wasn't KSP-tier "I'll just improve this design (for the next 15 hours)")

15:11 <SporkWitch> fair enough

15:11 <SporkWitch> should be a steam sale in a couple weeks, i'll see if it goes on sale and grab it if it does

21:57 <raptop> ;mission add You run Doom on a KAL-1000.

21:57 <LunchBot> raptop: Added mission: You run Doom on a KAL-1000.

22:00 <bees> raptop: You violate the cosmic censorship principle. Ia! Ia! TsmvgdlYadrtfg fhtagn!

22:01 <raptop> TsmvgdlYadrtfg?

22:02 <darsie> WTH, that's not ROT13.

22:04 <raptop> IKR!

22:04 <packbart> fhtagn!

22:56 <SporkWitch> bees: it's actually "Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn!"

22:57 <SporkWitch> raptop: i can't find any reference to that word, think he just mashed the keyboard for it. The most well-known full line is "Ph'nglui mglw'nfah Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" ("In his house at Rylyeh, dread Cthulhu waits dreaming")

22:58 <UmbralRaptop> KSP: inventing new lovecraftian monsters

22:58 <SporkWitch> clearly the kraken is a servant of Yog-Sothoth

23:38 <UmbralRaptop> Obviously "the gate" is an airlock