<taniwha>
I have it during the summer when I'm feeling particularly affected by the heat
<awang>
Also, sort of off-topic: Does KSP have a Stage class or anything like it?
<taniwha>
(it's a "sports" drink)
<awang>
Hmmm
<taniwha>
dunno, but there's StagingManager
<awang>
Doesn't seem to be available in the States, unfortunately
<awang>
Or at least not easily
<taniwha>
it's great for those times when sweat is literally dripping from my hands
<taniwha>
(after running down my arms)
<taniwha>
I prefer Green Dakara to Pocari Sweat, though
<taniwha>
or even better, the fruit flavored Irohas water (has a bit of salt in it along with the fruit flavor (apple, orange or peach so far), and not much else)
<taniwha>
guess that's what you get living in a country where "international" means "Canada and maybe Mexico"
<taniwha>
though all those drinks are native to Japan (and Japan isn't much better with it's idea of "international")
<awang>
True
<awang>
I'm not even sure where the nearest "specialty" store (for lack of a better phrase) is
<awang>
Does KER still not really work with RO?
<taniwha>
no idea
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<xShadowx>
taniwha: nay not sweet, and dont even need much for me to sense sweet -.-
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<mdjseymour>
hi all
<mdjseymour>
where should I post stuff relating to RP-1 ?
<awang>
mdjseymour: "Post stuff" meaning...?
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<blowfish>
Reasons I use HyperEdit: 0% I can't actually do the mission, 100% I can do the mission but am too lazy to calculate the exact launch window
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<soundnfury>
awang: KER works well enough for me, just one or two things not to trust it on ;)
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<Probus>
Good Morning o/
<taniwha>
hi, Probus
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<awang>
soundnfury: What do you not use KER for?
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<awang>
I remember reading somewhere that Custom Asteroids isn't compatible with the Kopernicus version of RSS
<awang>
Or something like that
<awang>
Is there any truth in that?
<awang>
I can't seem to find the original claim, unfortunately
<xShadowx>
awang: i seem to remember kopernicus makes asteroids now i think, so my bet would be redundancy conflict
<xShadowx>
verify in #kopernicus
<awang>
It does make asteroids, but idk if that means a conflict
<awang>
Could be that they just both end up spawning asteroids, so you get even more than usual
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<awang>
Oh hey, there's a 40th anniversary celebration for the Voyager missions this Thursday at my university
<awang>
Exciting
<awang>
And a Golden Record will be on exhibit!
<soundnfury>
awang: KER can't show burn times / delta-V of a stage whose engines are currently running; it displays as 0 for some reason
<soundnfury>
oh and it has the overcounting-kerbal-mass bug
<soundnfury>
(though possibly only in the VAB)
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<soundnfury>
other than that it's fine
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<soundnfury>
that said, nowadays I use it mainly just for two things: Ap/Pe in HUD on vessel view, and quick'n'dirty delta-V estimation in the VAB
<soundnfury>
(anything else I mostly get through konrad now)
<awang>
soundnfury: That sounds like it could be problematic
<awang>
I thought *everything* had the overcounting-kerbal-mass bug
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<awang>
KONRAD KONRAD KONRAD KONRAD KONRAD KONRAD KONRAD
<awang>
You should change your nick to soundnKONRAD
<awang>
:P
<soundnfury>
awang: hey, it's not my fault it does everything
<soundnfury>
... wait, it is
<awang>
:P
<awang>
Is there anything Konrad *can't* do?
<UmbralRaptor>
Runge-Kutta methods.
<soundnfury>
^ true. Send patches.
<awang>
Does it do RCS balancing?
<soundnfury>
(it can't do multibody gravitation, because wtf is a simplex)
<soundnfury>
uhhh, it doesn't know any of anything relevant to that, so no
<awang>
:(
* soundnfury
|zzz now
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<egg|zzz|egg>
soundnfury, you don't *need* symplecticity for multibody gravitation, it's merely a nice property to have, but plenty of mission planning ephemerides are made with nonsymplectic methods (you need a decent integrator though)
<UmbralRaptor>
Gradient descent integrator!
<UmbralRaptor>
(okay, not really. Also I have a weird feeling that getting Konrad a better integrator would be harder than it looks?)
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<rsparkyc>
o/
<rsparkyc>
does Realism Overhaul work on 1.3.1?
<rsparkyc>
:P
<awang>
rsparkyc: Probably with some amount of recompiling, yes
<rsparkyc>
maybe i should find more time and get around to doing that
<awang>
I have it running on 1.3.0, at least
<rsparkyc>
excellent!
<rsparkyc>
stratochief, anyone make a new golden spreadsheet yet?
<awang>
Should be PRs open for the things that haven't been updated to 1.3.0
<awang>
Haven't tried 1.3.1 yet
<rsparkyc>
i probably need to updated some of my mods soon...
<rsparkyc>
i actually haven't opened up KSP in months
<rsparkyc>
stupid real-life stuff
<awang>
NathanKell and Pap are both in the same boat
<rsparkyc>
NathanKell got hit with real life again?
<rsparkyc>
i know he was out about 6 months ago
<awang>
Yep
<rsparkyc>
ugh, must be whatever he's doing a valve
<awang>
He was out for maybe a month or two recently?
<rsparkyc>
s/a valve/at valve
<Qboid>
rsparkyc meant to say: ugh, must be whatever he's doing at valve
<awang>
Showed up again maybe a week ago, but been MIA since then
<xShadowx>
Pap died too?o;
<rsparkyc>
last i heard Pap was making some real progress on the tech tree
<rsparkyc>
but didn't he just have a kid?
<awang>
Yep
<awang>
Pretty much
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<xShadowx>
thats what wives are for
* xShadowx
ducks
<rsparkyc>
haha
<Probus>
Ha!
<xShadowx>
im horrible ;p
<Pap>
Woah, I just showed my wife. She says I'm not allowed to hang out with you guys anymore ;)
<Qboid>
Pap: soundnfury left a message for you in #RO [07.10.2017 00:10:18]: "is the crewed orbit repeat contract meant to pay enough for the launch? 'cos it doesn't, now that man-rated rockets are expensive"
<xShadowx>
:(
<xShadowx>
sorry mrs pap i was kidding! o;
<Pap>
rsparkyc: tech tree has been done for a while
<awang>
HE LIVES
<rsparkyc>
Pap: see, that's how long i've been gone
<xShadowx>
see bad jokes revived him ;p
<Pap>
Bornholio created a new golden spreadsheet
<awang>
Wonder if that works with NathanKell
<Pap>
Dunno how updated though
<rsparkyc>
(but do a get a "Hey, welcome back!!!", nope)
<Pap>
NK logged on a few days ago
<xShadowx>
for 2 sec to say dont qboid him ;3
<Pap>
Yay, rsparkyc is back!
<awang>
Golden spreadsheet?
<rsparkyc>
haha, thx pap
<rsparkyc>
awang, i made a spreadsheet that got pretty popular back when we were trying to get RO/RP-0 to run on 1.2.2
<rsparkyc>
it got nicknamed the golden spreadsheet
* xShadowx
gives Pap a fresh home made pumpkin pie
<xShadowx>
i been making a lot of pumpkin pie lately ;3
<rsparkyc>
isn't that what a wife is for?
<rsparkyc>
*also ducks*
<awang>
rsparkyc: I see
<xShadowx>
nah i avoided that trap ;p
<awang>
Used for tracking what needs to be updated?
<rsparkyc>
lol
<rsparkyc>
awang: exactly
<Pap>
rsparkyc needs to fix Procedural Avionics... (ducks)