UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #KSPOfficial to: Kerbal Space Program 1.7.2 official channel | Rules: http://archive.is/5bp8u | PM ops as needed | ΔV maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | <packbart> stupid Kerbals, begin to breathe before the air has materialized
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<Theremin26> Hi
<packbart> Hello
<packbart> ah, now I see the light strips. I was holding it wrong
<Gasher[work]> hm, are mun stones rare?
<packbart> no. I see them everywhere I land
<packbart> did have to rove around some to find a small crater, though
<Gasher[work]> there were none near where i landed
<packbart> I have seen them in the Midlands, near the poles, in the craters. From higher up, you'd see lots of dark shadows on the surface
<Gasher[work]> i should turn on shadows then
<packbart> did you start a new game/add ROCSeed to the save?
<Gasher[work]> added then started, it's not that bug i think
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<packbart> do you run 1.7.1 or 1.7.2? I just remember some changelog about adjusted ROC frequency
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<Gasher[work]> 171
<kmath> <✔KerbalSpaceP> KSP Loading preview Propeller and Helicopter Blades ⏎ ⏎ 🚁 ⏎ This blade part can be used to convert lift into thrust if y… https://t.co/pvS5meKGE5
<Althego> what i always wanted
<Althego> with how things are it is going to be a new dlc
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<Mat2ch> Probably.
<packbart> "Are these coming in a stock release soon™?" - "yup!" https://twitter.com/KerbalSpaceP/status/1146912653694197760
<kmath> <✔KerbalSpaceP> @MartHill2112 yup!
<packbart> let's see
<Althego> hmm
<Althego> based on the turboshaft engines later
<Althego> it means still no electric prop
<Gasher[work]> packbart, indeed * Fix Surface Feature frequency math. Should be much easier to find now.
<Gasher[work]> from 1.7.2 changelog
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<Theremin26> hmm I only own the base game but I'm wondering if getting the DLCs would be worth it - seems quite expensive for the content
<Mat2ch> packbart: but how do you drive them? You will need the robotic dlc for that.
<Gasher[work]> oh, i got them for free
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<sasamj> Theremin26: first one is not worth it, just wait for it to go on sale, second one is closer, but you could wait for it to go on sale
<Theremin26> well the first one is on sale right now - but I guess I'll just wait then
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<packbart> Mat2ch: yeah, I saw the Breaking Ground in the part overview. so maybe it'll work just with the BG DLC. we'll see
<packbart> +logo
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<packbart> I like some of the Making History parts but there are probably mods that provide similar things. I must admit that I never used the Mission Builder much
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<kmath> YouTube - MEMs oscillator sensitivity to helium (helium kills iPhones)
<Fluburtur> no
<Althego> i am your father
<packbart> hmm. now, *that's* how I could get my Minmus base delivered. https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/185146-munar-base-dispenser/
<Althego> hehe
<Althego> i would go with the unfolding base approach like in the video where the guy puts an iss replica to orbit with a single launch
<packbart> I've mostly used the GroundConstruction mod for base building, so far. Send a kit, a workshop and a bunch of engineers
<packbart> now I'm going to try and land a base with two science labs. not sure yet how to do it
<Fluburtur> dont give money to TT
<Fluburtur> Mat2ch sounds like a scam
<Eddi|zuHause> i could have used that base dispenser to move my base after i landed at the most shadowy place on minimus pole
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<Mat2ch> Fluburtur: TT is a scam ;P
<Althego> look at the good side. at least ksp is not anthem or fallout 76 :)
<Mat2ch> Don't say that too loud. They might go there...
<Althego> hehe
<Althego> no, not really, those were major disasters for the companies too
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<Eddi|zuHause> what would have been the alternatives?
<Eddi|zuHause> honestly, i fail to understand this rejective attitude towards paid dlc
<Eddi|zuHause> "we continue to update this game as long as you continue to buy DLCs" seems to be a perfectly valid business strategy
<umaxtu_mobile> I don't get it either
<Althego> last time i looked at that mars base builder thing, and i didnt buy it even on sale because of all the dlcs
<Althego> it is infinite
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<Althego> a cash grab
<Althego> i can still put up with ksp becasue there are only 2
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<Althego> but i bet it is going to increase
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<Eddi|zuHause> the problem with DLC-driven "endless" games is that it builds up over time, thus new people joining in will have this massive barrier ahead of them
<Eddi|zuHause> imho, older DLCs should be put into the base game after some time (2 years?)
<Althego> yes
<Althego> just as they did it with the asteroid day mod
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<Fluburtur> I know
<Fluburtur> I would have prefered for it to die than get aquired by TT
<Althego> it cant die
<Althego> because it is already out there
<Althego> in many copies
<Althego> there will be gamrs using it a decade from now on
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<Fluburtur> I dotn think TT depends on ksp dlc sales to stay aloft
<kmath> <✔KerbalSpaceP> We need 8-bit #KSP ⏎ by skyaboveend ⏎ https://t.co/OmCwK8q5AN https://t.co/5k4DWccFP5
<Althego> yes we totally need it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_16eZks21U
<kmath> YouTube - 8-Bit Kerbal Space Program - NES Gameplay
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<packbart> Little Computer Kerbals
<Althego> nobody said it would be simple. but it is possible
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<winircuser-214> wassup
<winircuser-214> lawlawl
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<Fluburtur> well thats paradox for you
<Fluburtur> sadly
<Fluburtur> anyways I havent played ksp in months because im still salty about that
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<Althego> after 5 years even i dont play it all the time :)
<umaxtu> paradox didn't acquire KSP
<Fluburtur> and it isnt fun anymore because it somehow takes longer to load than before
<Fluburtur> that wasnt a dlc tho
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<Fluburtur> peoples didnt have to pay for that
<Fluburtur> I could give copies of my backups to everyone I know
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<Fluburtur> the versions before TT screwed with the game
<Althego> at least next debian arrives today for free :)
<Althego> er tomorrow
<kubi> eh
<kubi> that's why it is not really updating recently
<Althego> heh still 71 rc bugs
<kubi> hm
<kubi> I had buster intead of testing in sources.list
<Althego> then oyu already have it
<kubi> of course
<kubi> testing = buster today
<kubi> but I want testing, not getting on the stable branch
<kubi> I'm too old to hund the bugs coming with sid though
<Althego> hehe
<kubi> but now, after buster is out, testing will have a bit of a storm
<Althego> obviously
<kubi> ehh
<kubi> I started with potato migrating from slackware / redhat systems
<kubi> since then it is only debian
<kubi> no
<kubi> it was slink
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<Althego> hehe scott found the spacex fairing video too
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<Althego> hehe he knows about the meme pic
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<UmbralRaptor> KSP: where pilots understand PID systems, but scientists and engineers do not
<Althego> hehe
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<Althego> in reality nobody des :)
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<JVFoxy> some reason this career with mods, feels a little weird having Canadian flag... even though I'm from there. c.c;
<Eddi|zuHause> could be worse, could be a nazi flag
<JVFoxy> ... didn't say it was a 'bad thing'...
<iamfishhead> UmbralRaptor: haha
<JVFoxy> I coulda put my province's flag up but..
<Eddi|zuHause> but seriously, there was a historic mission set that included a bunch of flags, including the nazi flag for the V2 program
<Eddi|zuHause> .. i nearly fell off my chair when i saw that in the game
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<UmbralRaptor> o_O
<Mat2ch> kubi: I'm on Unstable for years now. It's not that bad. ;)
<JVFoxy> ugh... trying to land plane in highlands.
<JVFoxy> touch down, ok good. now to stop. Suddenly tertain janks up, catches a wheel, rips it off
<JVFoxy> at least this time I had the brain to save from when I landed on the grasslands
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<Eddi|zuHause> i generally save right before any landing attempt, because i know i'm doing it no less than 5 times anyway
<JVFoxy> I /may/ install Kerbinside...
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<JVFoxy> trouble is, how they did the terrain, generally its sections with hard edges all the time
<JVFoxy> each section of terrain itself is pretty small, no smoothing
<JVFoxy> I guess on the flip side.. not having to worry about trees and the likes getting in the way all the time
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<JVFoxy> did find something of a 'cheaty' way to get RP on the mountains... takes quite a bit of piloting skill though to land it up there. More of a juno powered vtol thing with two MK1 pods
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<Eddi|zuHause> you can just land in the highlands and drive up the mountains to get the biome
<JVFoxy> technically, I could land in the mountains.. I know a spot, but its a bit of a slope. Can land on it ok. its the turning around without rolling over to go back down for takeoff...
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