<kmath>
<✔NASAInSight> Steady… ⏎ I’m getting ready to try pushing on the ground near my heat probe. Getting close up lets me take some image… https://t.co/OzKORhWXhu
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<darsie>
Challenge: Get to orbit without fuel fully reusably.
<darsie>
Should be easy on Gilly.
<Althego>
hehe
<Althego>
the without fuel part makes it a bit hard
<Eddi|zuHause>
does EC count as fuel?
<packbart>
how would that convert into thrust? putting all energy into the launch won't lift your orbit clear of the surface on its own
<packbart>
maybe catapult a craft from Gilly's surface into an Eve slingshot?
<packbart>
oh, wait, I see. I had the reference wrong. Of course you could launch from Gilly and not encounter its surface on the return to the launch point because Gilly would have moved
<darsie>
Eddi|zuHause: no
<packbart>
you'd need to escape Gilly on launch which should be easy enough
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<packbart>
and the craft would still crash the next time the moon comes around
<JVFoxy>
eep?
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<Guest29257>
hi
<Mod9000>
Hello, Guest29257
<Guest29257>
for game in italian lenguage?
<darsie>
Well, launching would not be too hard, but landing and reusing would be quite tricky.
<darsie>
hi Guest29257
<darsie>
Guest29257: Type /nick Mario29257
Guest29257 is now known as Mario29257
<Mario29257>
lol
<darsie>
Hi Mario29257 :)
<Mario29257>
anyway
<JVFoxy>
yo
<darsie>
idk about KSP language settings.
<Mario29257>
ok
<darsie>
My English is good enough.
<JVFoxy>
darsie landing and reusing in which respect, sorry?
<darsie>
JVFoxy: Challenge: Get to orbit without fuel fully reusably.
<darsie>
e.g. on Gilly
<darsie>
I guess a lot of KSP puns are non translatable.
<JVFoxy>
hmm..
<JVFoxy>
wasn't sure if you meant relaunching SSTO from Kerbin, skipping the refueling part
<JVFoxy>
actually, something I did in early version KSP, rather unintentional.. command seat plane and was before heating effects
<Althego>
in early versions you could go supersonic just with the control surafces
<JVFoxy>
lol.. oh right. the 'waggle' ships
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<Althego>
in fact i had trouble landing in some cases because of that
<JVFoxy>
ya.. then it became level-0 landing wheels blowing up if you so much as breathed on them
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<Althego>
in ksp everything is made out of explosive. the difference is, those wheels were made of azidoazide azide
<Althego>
"Due to their behavior during the process of synthesis, it was obvious that the sensitivities (of these compounds) will be not less than extreme. . .
<Althego>
The sensitivity of C2N14 is beyond our capabilities of measurement. The smallest possible loadings in shock and friction tests led to explosive decomposition. . ."
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<packbart>
well, Nitrogen desperately wants to be a gas. Shouldn't we just accept that on not try to force it into ever longer chains?
<JVFoxy>
I thought the idea of steam powered cars was kind of neat. But, no, some say, its dangerous having a pressurized tank of steam and water that could blow up. Oh and having a tank of gas strapped to the back of a car isn't any more safer?
<UmbralRaptop>
It depends on details? Also, you still need to heat the steam
<JVFoxy>
the other thing too is, boiler vs steam generator... first one you have a massive tank of water trying to heat up. Second, is just a little bit, which flash boils
<packbart>
Wind-up cars are the future ;)
<JVFoxy>
and true you do need a fuel source for heating, but you can use basically a heavy oil, which isn't quite as potentially explosive as gas used in cars
<Althego>
hehe the wind up train in syberia 1 and 2
<Althego>
it always broke down a few meters from the next wind up station
<JVFoxy>
packbart: I thought compressed air would have been cool. Its actually used in a few places for small people 'carts' on warehouse floors.
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<_8>
ù
<Althego>
ű
<_8>
hi
<Mod9000>
Hello, _8
<_8>
if you see that your cursors are going crazy, know that I haven't hacked you
<UmbralRaptop>
ü
<UmbralRaptop>
Unicode allows for much silliness
<Althego>
☃
<Althego>
unicode snowman for you .com
<UmbralRaptop>
consider: ☠☢☣☡
<packbart>
"SSTO: Straight Shot To Ocean"
<Althego>
or so the flat earthers say
<JVFoxy>
if it such a flat earth, wouldn't going to space be easy? Just fly off the edge
<darsie>
Fall off
<Althego>
no because you hit the dome
<darsie>
Or see what engine powers Earth to provide artificial gravity.
<Althego>
there is n o gravity
<darsie>
That's why Earth is accelerated.
<Althego>
they say it is buoyancy and density lol
<darsie>
How did Reinhold Messner get from one side of the Antarctic to the other on foot?
<darsie>
Didn't happen?
<Althego>
yes
<Althego>
nobody cross or flew over the south pole
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<JVFoxy>
dome huh? how convenient..
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<Althego>
these people are so dumb, they see videos from yo yo despin rockets and they say it hit the dome
* darsie
cheated out of a contract: Measure temperature on Gilly below 7000 km etc. 4x. Forgot it was below and took the contract, but that's too slow.
<darsie>
1x acceleration <8000 km.
<darsie>
Althego: lol
<darsie>
I thought a yoyo despin video was fake when I first saw it.
<JVFoxy>
don't know about 'dumb'.. the fact they are so hard set on something, nothing will change their mind is actually a little scary
<packbart>
I was on maintenance detail for the northern star spotlights on The Dome for 6 months. Boy, what a crummy job. Those things are hot and they fail every other night.
<Althego>
hehe
<JVFoxy>
twinkle twinkle little star.. wait what? :P
<Althego>
the frog leap studios version :)
<JVFoxy>
come to think of it... ever read Steal Beach?
<JVFoxy>
... *steal beach, by John Varley I believe
<JVFoxy>
Humanity ended up living on the moon, spaces carved out under the surface. Something about aliens making it so we couldn't be on Earth.
<JVFoxy>
Any case.. dome there, big sun on tracks. sorta of a play on the whole 'flat earth' I suppose...
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<packbart>
the VAB music reminds me that I was going to build Ninja Base into a multi-moon hopper thingy. Replace one lab with an ISRU converter, add a drill and larger tanks, rejiggle some weights.
<packbart>
so it can land on the Mun and on Minmus, then get on its way to Duna. I've got contracts to fulfill
<JVFoxy>
heh.. jiggling weights
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<APlayer>
Their explanation is not as far-fetched as it seems. After all, the "d" in "despin" obviously stands for "dome"
<APlayer>
And as for star twinkle, that is caused by atmospheric turbulences. As the air moves, the areas of varying pressure and density cause the tent-like dome structure to move with them, which is the main cause of twinkling stars
<packbart>
oh don't get me started on that stupid flexible design. It's not easy to build high-current connectors that withstand the push-pull motions. Even then, *THEY* had to skimp on costs, of course, and buy the cheapest plugs they could get (think coax connectors, just with meter-size diameters)
<packbart>
most of the aurora lights we see are just arcing in the starlight wiring
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<Guest>
if you see that your cursors are going crazy, know that I haven't hacked you
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<JVFoxy>
.... saturday crazies?
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<UmbralRaptop>
I guess
<UmbralRaptop>
same hostmask anyway
<JVFoxy>
gotta go play in traffic... enough crazy for me to deal with...
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