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<hypercore>
hello
<Mod9000>
Hello, hypercore
<darsie>
.
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<raptop>
okay
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<packbart>
Steam Achievements are an interesting public analytics tool. Only 54% of all (Steam-)players of "Deliver Us The Moon" made it to the second outpost
<raptop>
hm, 34.2% of all players got the first achievement in spacechem
<raptop>
(which is one of the later demo levels)
<raptop>
...also, there appear to be a bunch of games on steam I should play more
<raptop>
;mission add You construct additional pylons.
<LunchBot>
raptop: Added mission: You construct additional pylons.
<raptop>
;mission add You launch a Vespene gas mining expedition to Jool.
<LunchBot>
raptop: Added mission: You launch a Vespene gas mining expedition to Jool.
<raptop>
;mission add You spawn more Overlords.
<LunchBot>
raptop: Added mission: You spawn more Overlords.
<raptop>
;outcome add Your interplanetary program ends with all kerbals being replaced with imposters.
<LunchBot>
raptop: Added outcome: Your interplanetary program ends with all kerbals being replaced with imposters.
<raptop>
;mission add You question the wisdom of retrograde Bop.
<LunchBot>
raptop: Added mission: You question the wisdom of retrograde Bop.
<raptop>
(This is a Principia reference)
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<raptop>
;mission add Following UmbralRaptop's advice, you switch from CSV to FITS for storing your tabular data.
<LunchBot>
raptop: Added mission: Following UmbralRaptop's advice, you switch from CSV to FITS for storing your tabular data.
<raptop>
>_>
<raptop>
Please ignore all the data I pulled off of VizieR that's in FORTRAN format
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<Mat2ch>
NSF has already set up a live stream event. :D
<Mat2ch>
I wonder if we will see anything today
<Mat2ch>
weather looks very good today
<Mat2ch>
no wind
<Althego>
i was checking the weather right now :Ö
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<Mat2ch>
But how does the FAA weather look like? I need a forecast for that, too! :D
<Althego>
hehe
<Mat2ch>
Inspiration4 is an interesting mission. From the financial side. As we all know the boosters itself are expensive, but get used at least 10 times now. The upper stage is lost, but the capsule is reused
<Mat2ch>
so how expensive is such a flight now? My bet would be around 10 million USD.
<Mat2ch>
Internally it is probably much cheaper, but SpaceX needs the money for Starship
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<Althego>
the booster is something like 70% of the total rocket cost
<Althego>
and out of that most is in the engines
<Althego>
there is only 1 engine lost on the upper stage
<Althego>
however this is just material wise, we dont know how much the preparation for the next launch costs
<Althego>
especially for a manned mission
<Althego>
but based on the time they do it, it is probably less than for the shuttle. but it doesnt mean much since it had a horrible cost
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<Mat2ch>
I bet it's scary cheap compared to other rockets...
<Althego>
let's hope they are not cutting corners anywhere
<Althego>
and it is only luck that doesnt cause anny catastrophe
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<Althego>
like with the shuttle. ah a foam hit it. hit it again, hit it again, and again... it istn serius. until it got serious
<darsie>
Are there human Jebediahs?
<flayer>
there's a bunch of pennsylvania
<darsie>
hmm
<flayer>
in*
<darsie>
ic :)
<FLHerne>
darsie: Mike Hughes?
<FLHerne>
(sadly without the magic respawning)
<darsie>
Mike Hughes doesn't sound like Jebediah.
<Althego>
but died in the most kerbal way
<darsie>
Ahh, that guy :).
<FLHerne>
Guy built a rocket in his garage, launched himself in it, was seriously injured, recovered, improved it, launched it again, died
<darsie>
Forgot to check the staging.
<Althego>
parachute deploy on launch
<Althego>
didnt buy the t-shirt from scott
<darsie>
I guess the parachutes wouldn't have helped if deployed at apogee.
<darsie>
Or did they tear from the rocket exhaust?
<flayer>
did he forget to bring the rocket outside...?
<Althego>
hehe, gamers nexus, thy got a reply from nzxt about the pc cases which set themselves on fire. video zooms into a link in the browser: scientists taught spinach to send emails
<kubi>
most of the activities promoting things to believe in is just a fundraiser
<kubi>
let is be a curch, a politician, lizard people or flat earth
<kubi>
there will be some good number of ppl from the 7 billion paying for anything
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<Mat2ch>
the stream is on
<Mat2ch>
even though we're not going to see anything for the next hour :D
<Mat2ch>
Althego: well, if it's written, ok. Let's get a vasectomy.
<Althego>
the crane is moving
<Althego>
what a blazing speed
<Althego>
now in only 5 hours the starship might launch
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<Tank2333>
is SN9 flying today?
<Althego>
maybe
<Althego>
at least they are seriously tryinh
<Althego>
g
<Mostly_Deddly>
6 pm UTC according to... some app I have
<Mostly_Deddly>
(tentatively)
<Althego>
i guess the fueling takes longer
<Mostly_Deddly>
That's only two hours
<Mostly_Deddly>
So yeah
<Mostly_Deddly>
I imagine it will be later than that
<Althego>
but i think they are not going to start until the crane is in its new place and the area is cleared of humans, including the inhabitants
<darsie>
Mostly_Deddly: Thats in ... 5 min?
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<darsie>
nope, 2 h
<Althego>
faa is not doing, sn9 is doing?
<Mostly_Deddly>
darsie, 6 pm = 18:00 UTC
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<darsie>
It's 5 pm UTC+1. I calculated the wrong way.
<Mostly_Deddly>
Since FAA approved it, FAA is also doing :)
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<Mat2ch>
Uh, what's the purpose of Spot now? I mean, I like that they are using Linux, but, uh, a worker is much faster in getting things from a shelf...
<Mat2ch>
Ok, Visual Studio Code on Linux. Now I'm disgusted. :P
<Mat2ch>
and Python 2.7. Which is legecy code. Wow
<Mat2ch>
the examples look like python3. Much better. But still. Python is a scripting language and very slow...
<raptop>
[US Astronaut voice] "It's all wrappers over FORTRA?"
<raptop>
[Ohio Astronaut voice] "Always was"
<raptop>
*FORTRAN
<Althego>
lol
<Mat2ch>
hrhr
<Mat2ch>
well, I know a few people who make good money in servicing old bank systems and databases with COBOL
<Azander>
CoBOL is fun :P
<Althego>
fortran is still in use and maintained
<Azander>
So is CoBOL
<Azander>
I use Both, along with C (not C++, or C#)
<Althego>
it seems there is a cobol 2014 lol
<Mat2ch>
I'm a uniformist. We need only a few languages and should port everything to them. And Cobol is not on that list. ;)
<Althego>
anyway cobol is for people who want to have a large technical debt.
<Mat2ch>
Neither is Java.
<Althego>
fortran, especially modern fortran is quite sane
<Althego>
a few languages? it is going to be js, you know it
<Althego>
i still put my bet to 21:35 cet
<Althego>
that is in 3 hours
<Althego>
although as they are progressing may happen later
<Mat2ch>
js will be banned and users will be thrown into active volcanos
<Althego>
you wish
<Mat2ch>
twice.
<Azander>
lets see a few languages... Assembler, Fortran, CoBOL, RPG, and C. Do we really need any more ?
<Mat2ch>
C++ for objects, but only 11 or up and we need a scripting language
<Mat2ch>
not perl, not sh, not php. :P
<Mat2ch>
not js.
<Mat2ch>
well, modern php maybe.
<Althego>
supopsedly php after 7 got better
<Althego>
but i dont know anything about it
<Mat2ch>
well, time to get groceries
<Mat2ch>
should be enough time
<Althego>
dont forget about stopping the spread of germans :)
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<Tank2333>
WHAAAAT
<umaxtu>
Tank2333, you responding to the spread of germans comment?
<raptop>
[extremely american voice] also, I keep on forgetting that diesel burning submarines still exist
<umaxtu>
eh they've got some advantages over nukes, especially when equipped with an AIP system
<raptop>
I mean, I know that lower internal noise is possible in some cases
<umaxtu>
and cost
<raptop>
That reminds me, I still need to at some point total up # of reactors and power output in the US Navy vs our electrical grid
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<Tank2333>
i was ironic, the u boat is just another thing in the line of downed military machinery, in think there is not one section wich is fully equipped,
<Mat2ch>
well, we have some hydrogen driven U-Boote, but I'm not sure if they are operational.
<Mat2ch>
We still have rockets that can carry atomic warheads. And some US atomic warheads are lying pretty close to them and fit on those rockets for some reason.
<Althego>
the article said they operate on diesel engine and fuel cells, and none of them are working
<Mat2ch>
nice!
<flayer>
its a shame
<Mat2ch>
And everything else I have to say targets politics
<Mat2ch>
so I just say: ruled by laypeople.
<Mat2ch>
there's a "von" somewhere in there. But you have to find it. :D
* Mat2ch
checks the live stream
<Mat2ch>
no grass that is venting
* Mat2ch
vents a bit
<Althego>
so we are up to no sooner than 22h
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<Mat2ch>
probably
<Mat2ch>
time for some rocket league :P
<Mat2ch>
125k viewers, which is nothing for youtube. But the player is unable to stay "live"...
<flayer>
they're doing a 10 km hop today?
<FLHerne>
Hopefully
<Althego>
so we are back to 10 km again
<Althego>
and elon chose this day to not be on twitter
<Althego>
meanwhile wintergatan 2
<Althego>
i dont trust this new wooden contraption
<Althego>
scott 1 hour ago
<umaxtu>
damnit Althego! I'm trying to do homework before the hop
<darsie>
umaxtu: Let the mechanical turk do the homework :).
<Althego>
ah they were progressing well, now people are writing f
<Althego>
épé that was a fraud
<Althego>
épé=lol just one column shifted
<raptop>
épée
<Althego>
interesting, i didnt know that
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<Althego>
somebody in a pickup is moving around the site?
<Althego>
people are joking it is jeff bezos
<Althego>
i didnt mention before this, but i was hoping no interruptions this time like with the plane
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<Althego>
and there is a truck
<Althego>
this vould cost an hour
<Althego>
they could have hopped in a sane time, but no, a truck
<Althego>
i am trying to come up with a method of timing injection burn for an escape trajectory towards the moon without nodes. the normal travel time is too slow
<umaxtu>
burn prograde when the Mun comes over the horizon
<Althego>
that is for a normal hohmann, i never tried it with an escape trajectory
<umaxtu>
oh
<darsie>
Althego: Gravity assist for interplanetary flight?
<Althego>
no, the hohmann is too slow. also i want to piggyback an escape trajectory experiment on a mun probe, but no nodes yet
<umaxtu>
pirate ship!
<Althego>
it seems have to burn way before the mun appears
<Althego>
now that means there is no help
<Mat2ch>
the steam isn't staying live
<Mat2ch>
every SpaceX stream stays live
<Mat2ch>
what gives yt?
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<Althego>
cdn problem? or your net
<umaxtu>
Mat2ch, official SpaceX stream?
<umaxtu>
I don't think there is one
<Althego>
there isnt
<umaxtu>
probably don't want to broadcast themselves giving the FAA the finger
<Mat2ch>
not yet
<Mat2ch>
last time there was one five minutes before launch or so