NathanKell changed the topic of #RO to: Welcome to the discussion channel for the Realism Overhaul (meta)mod for KSP! Realism Overhaul Main Thread https://goo.gl/wH7Dzb ! RO Spreadsheet http://goo.gl/Oem3g0 ! Code of Conduct http://goo.gl/wOSv2M ! | [15:01] <soundnfury> Straight Eight Stronk (and) RP-0/1 is basically "Space Agency Spreadsheet Simulator" with a rocket-flying minigame
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<Bornholio>
pap I cheer for the toggle feature thing.
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<blowfish>
evening
<Qboid>
blowfish: awang left a message for you in #RO [01.03.2018 13:32:18]: "There aren't any instructions as far as I know. I think changes are fairly straightforward -- just change whatever looks like it corresponds to your change -- but dropping Pap a !tell is probably a good idea if you aren't sure"
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<Probus>
Trivia question: Are the fins on a Saturn V white, black, or silver/grey?
<ProjectThoth>
Probus: Silver, right?
<ProjectThoth>
And they're identified with black text on white squares, iirc.
<Probus>
Silver looks right, I've seen white on a lot of models and they look black at the Kennedy Space Center.
<ProjectThoth>
(New to me, tbh, but a really cool look at pre-flight operations)
<Probus>
Lots of zinc chromate underneath.
<ProjectThoth>
Oh, yeah, that was all over the place on those things.
<ProjectThoth>
(I also might have been cheating on that trivia, because I've got a 1/100 Saturn V about six feet away from me)
<Probus>
lol. I'm building a 1/72 scale on a 3D printer. Man that thing is massive compared to the Redstone/Atlas/Titan II. Even the Falcon 9.
<ProjectThoth>
Real beauty of a vehicle. Wish I had been one of the lucky guys who worked on it.
<Starman4308>
Thoroughly reading that website you linked ProjectThoth. Once more, I'm surprised at just how many carefully thought-through details there were in the Apollo program.
<ProjectThoth>
Starman4308: 400,000 people over 7+ years.
<blowfish>
Pap - you around?
<Pap>
Blowfish si
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<blowfish>
Pap: are there instructions on the spreadsheet anywhere? Also what's the process for getting changes in the spreasheet into the repo?
<Pap>
There are not instructions on it. I will have to write them. Hopefully I can do it tomorrow. It is not difficult.
<soundnfury>
ProjectThoth: I imagine that for the guys who did work on it, the subsequent history (Shuttle Decision) was pretty heartbreaking :S
<ProjectThoth>
soundnfury: Alas, what might've been.
<soundnfury>
(you've read Eyes, right?)
<ProjectThoth>
I have, indeed.
<ProjectThoth>
soundnfury: The Shuttle alt-history that I wish happened would be Saturn-Shuttle.
<ProjectThoth>
(with a reusable S-IC included, of course)
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<soundnfury>
yes, that would have been nice
<soundnfury>
but tbh trying to to reuse first on such a large scale is always asking for trouble, whether of upper or lower stage.
<ProjectThoth>
Maybe the stage-and-a-half version in the early years, or some ancestral form of SMART?
<soundnfury>
They should have first tried, idk, a flyback Thor or something.
<ProjectThoth>
I mean, the Shuttle wasn't a bad idea, at least on paper.
<ProjectThoth>
I'm a huge SSTO advocate, of course. :P
<ProjectThoth>
Phil Bono and Gary Hudson were right!
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<blowfish>
Pap: does the spreadsheet generate entire files or just configs?
<blowfish>
individual configs
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<Pap>
Just the config format that needs to be copy pasted into a file
<Pap>
^^ Bornholio
<Pap>
^^ blowfish
<blowfish>
thanks Pap
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<leudaimon>
anybody knows what is sortkey in Contract Configurator cfgs?
<leudaimon>
I'm making Ceres and Vesta Flyby contracts and would like to know how to set this
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<zilti>
To make the understatement of the day: it's amazing we have that kind of pictures of an object as far away as Pluto: https://i.redd.it/503kwin0p8j01.jpg O_O
<awang>
....Interesting color scheme
<Pap>
leudaimon: sortkey puts the contracts in order in the Mission Control Screen
<leudaimon>
ah ok Pap, so I can just add a sequential number after the other flybys?
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<Starman4308>
My greatest regret about this dusk flight out of Vandenburg is that my game clock time is 1985, so there's no Twitter for Elon Musk to inform the people of San Francisco that there's a nuclear alien UFO from North Korea.
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<schnobs>
o/
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<Pap>
o/
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<Hypergolic_Skunk>
happy weekend Pap o/
<Pap>
Not yet you German bastard and your early timezone weekend :)
<Hypergolic_Skunk>
:D
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<schnobs>
Pap: was it a deliberate decision to not bother with film cameras, or mere oversight?
<Pap>
schnobs: there are film cameras
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<Pap>
WOAH, this spreadsheet is complex!
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<Bornholio>
zilti I see your Cthulhu Regio and raise you a High five for New Horizon