NathanKell changed the topic of #RO to: Welcome to the discussion channel for the Realism Overhaul (meta)mod for KSP! Realism Overhaul Main Thread https://goo.gl/wH7Dzb ! RO Spreadsheet http://goo.gl/Oem3g0 ! Code of Conduct http://goo.gl/wOSv2M ! | [15:01] <soundnfury> Straight Eight Stronk (and) RP-0/1 is basically "Space Agency Spreadsheet Simulator" with a rocket-flying minigame
<awang> !wpn egg
* Qboid gives egg a Giger polygon
<awang> !wpn Mike`
* Qboid gives Mike` a gradual feline-like monoid
<awang> !wpn lamont
* Qboid gives lamont a plurdled union
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<awang> !wpn -add:adj edgy
<Qboid> awang: Adjective added!
<awang> !wpn -add:wpn invariant
<Qboid> awang: Weapon already added!
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<Starman4308> What is this bot-based sorcery?
<Bornholio> qboid?
<Bornholio> NTR?
<Bornholio> NASA?
<Qboid> Bornholio: [NASA] => Nearly Always Some Acronym
<lamont> egg: didn’t play with endpoints yet
<lamont> i did start kinda playing KSP again, but, uh, mostly matlab working on two-point value problems
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<Starman4308> I was referring to Qboid the mystery bot of deep programming and much lore.
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<Bornholio> qboid is the message boi
<lamont> !wpn Starman4308
* Qboid gives Starman4308 a FORTRAN American moo
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<awang> Hey, the profiler for the new KSP seems to actually work
<awang> idk if it'll continue doing so once all the mods are loaded though
<Bornholio> lol, man lower your mod count you silly
<awang> Hey, my mod count is at 0 right now
<awang> Just getting ready for when that number reaches 3 digits
<awang> I guess now would be a good time to figure out the TF issues too
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<awang> Hey, I got the C# part of Principia compiling
<awang> Unity devs are liars :(
<awang> They said an extension method was kept part of UnityEngine.dll, when it was actually moved
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<Bornholio> Venusian Panty Raider, 240 kg, get orbit, atmospherey and landing in 59-60? or fail badly! I'll send three.
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<Bornholio> okay so subway map says 640 for intercept+2940 for capture to venus. +3210 outbound, what is sane for aerocapture +dv to stay in orbit?
<blowfish> depends on how hot you're willing to get
<Bornholio> I've got a heat shield for the capture and and secondary for entry
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<Bornholio> not sure that it will last for more than one capture loop though
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<awang> Can someone here who uses TF take a quick look in their KSP.log for me?
<awang> Want to figure out if this new error is something that's been around or something new
<awang> Also, how does AssetLoader.GetAssetDefinitionWithName work?
<awang> Where is the actual asset bundle located?
<Rokker> well. my RO build won't load
<Rokker> anyone got an unfucked one available that can be downloaded
<Bornholio> have old linky, but its a tad old. want my bleeding edge build?
<Bornholio> or help unfunking yours
<Rokker> Bornholio: I mean I'm still on 1.2.2
<Rokker> so
<Rokker> I don't mind old
<Bornholio> ah, then i cannot help, scrubbed that out
<Rokker> Bornholio: what all you got in the tad old one
<Bornholio> its a RP1 build, actually just checked i scrubbed it out of dropbox, so all i can offer is my bleeding edge RP1 build
<Bornholio> or troubleshooting
<Bornholio> :P
<Rokker> ugh
<Rokker> I hate bleeding edge
<Rokker> Bornholio: let's try bleeding edge
<Rokker> if you don't mind
<Bornholio> k give me a bit to scrub it, can't have squad stuff in it, you know :P or no FASA either too big
<Rokker> ugh
<Rokker> Bornholio: would my old fasa stuff be fine?
<Rokker> or do I need to download the up to date crap
<Bornholio> should be fine
<wb99999999> oh hey
<Bornholio> couple minutes to compress and dropbox it
<wb99999999> everybody's here
<Bornholio> Hi seven
<Rokker> Bornholio: thanks
<Rokker> Bornholio: whats different about RP-1 vs RP-0
<Bornholio> punishment
<Bornholio> tank tooling, kerbal training, huge tech tree....
<Rokker> oh dear
<Bornholio> science changes, KCT changes, lots of contracts
<awang> Huh
<awang> Apparently Start() isn't being called
<awang> Which breaks TF
<Rokker> Bornholio: looks like it might be AIES screwing me over
<Rokker> but whatever
<Rokker> I need to update sooner or later
<wb99999999> RP-1 as a name is a bit easy to confuse...
<wb99999999> you know...with something that also has to do with rockets
<Bornholio> dropbox is choking on my 1.2g zip
<awang> wb99999999: That's part of the charm!
<Rokker> Bornholio: rip
<Bornholio> .sigh it says 50ish minutes, my connection must suck donkey parts
<Rokker> Bornholio: just ship it by B-52
<Rokker> drop a thumb drive over my house
<Bornholio> rokker i have my grognard story to tell yah, I loaded warprograms onto b52's for the Patriot missle battery detection code with paper tape in '91
<Bornholio> friggin paper tape
<Bornholio> still 44 minutes, might build your own in that time :P
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<Rokker> Bornholio: actually I've gotten rather invested in a game of HOI4 for the moment
<Rokker> also paper tape, good ole air force technology
<Rokker> keeping with the times
<Bornholio> i'll leave a dl for you when it finishes . you drag your little army men to their doom
<Rokker> Bornholio: I'm trying to play as china
<Rokker> but holy mother of God it's impossible
<Bornholio> lol lots of doom
<Rokker> Bornholio: and it's supposed to be better with the dlc i downloaded, as I understand it
<Rokker> but it ain't
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<wb99999999> damn it
<Bornholio> really?
<wb99999999> the battery replacement kit I want for my old iphone 5s sold out...
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<Bornholio> i will now sleep
<Rokker> Bornholio: thanks
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<schnobs> o/
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<soundnfury> (sadly that's the only one I happen to have taken a screenshot of and can identify what launch it was from. But future launches — and all launches I do in RIS — will hopefully be pictured)
<schnobs> Once cannot train astronauts for the 1.25m crew carrier.
<schnobs> Training for "KerbCan" is available... but noone can board the "1.25m Crew Carrier".
<soundnfury> schnobs: that's odd, it's worked for me in the past
<soundnfury> what happens if you click the Fill All button, does someone appropriate get put aboard?
<schnobs> nope.
<soundnfury> dunno then, sorry
<schnobs> Ahhhh. But I can "clear" it, select "add", and then the crew becomes available.
<soundnfury> ah yup, thought so. The KCT side of things is just a little bit buggy
<schnobs> OK. First proper manned spaceflight in October 1955 (not counting A4/X1).
<soundnfury> that's pretty good, took me 'til May '58 last game
<schnobs> Sadly, I gotta go -- won't fly until tomorrow I guess.
<soundnfury> those are some broad wings you got there :)
<schnobs> Actually a PITA.
<schnobs> Empty CoM is just behind the crew container, I really realy need those canards and wish i didn't.
<schnobs> Aerodynamically it would probably work better as a X-1 lookalike. But I refuse to send *that* to space.
<schnobs> Rocketry: Atlas engines but with separate boosters, plus castors. Core stack ignites after castor (sue me).
<soundnfury> ever saw my spaceplane? http://jttlov.no-ip.org/napier2.png
<soundnfury> (that's after I upgraded the engines and could stretch it to become a two-seater)
<schnobs> suffering from the same nose-divey issues, I gather :)
<soundnfury> yeah, it flies beautifully from orbit down to about 100m/s. Then you really need that 'chute to land it with
<schnobs> Any engines on the plane itself?
<soundnfury> (during re-entry it's stable at about 30-40° AoA, which is great)
<soundnfury> yeah, Agena
<soundnfury> gives it 2500m/s or so, of which maybe 1800 are used for orbital insertion
<schnobs> (checks clock) gotta run, sorry
<soundnfury> (so once you have relights, you can do more than the 250m/s that the HTP RCS OMS WTF BBQ gives you)
<soundnfury> 'k, ttyl :)
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<BadRocketsCo> Howdy
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<Maxsimal> soundnfury: Cool!
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<soundnfury> Maxsimal: Python is just the best thing ever
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<Bornholio> Insanity === https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jqFjaHCo0gdIj5mX61V8D02Ma6v1WfH2Zuv0ddXgG5M/edit#gid=0 Golden spreadsheet MK1.4 :P its very sparse
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<Starman4308> So, to answer a random question: is the blue flame produced by the Agena engine in my 1.2.2 install realistic? I thought the hypergols tended to burn a clear red/orange.
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<awang> Bornholio: Almost got TF working for 1.4 :P
<awang> I can probably look at the other RO things too
<awang> Get them compiling at least, even if they're useless without their dependencies
<Rokker> Bornholio: what version is that cameras for
<Rokker> gamedata*
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<Rokker> Bornholio: is the gamedata you linked me for 1.4?
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<Sarbian> Custom Barn Kit & Smoke Screen are updated for 1.4 Bornholio :)
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<soundnfury> Bornholio: is the Crewed Science wiki page still accurate? It says to use WildBlueTools 1.19, but that doesn't seem to work with 1.3.1. Any idea what version to use instead?
<soundnfury> (or is the Crewed Science project just dead?)
<Bornholio> no its is broken not dead, help ttroubleshoot for pap
<Bornholio> thanks sarbian!
<Bornholio> rokker no, it might have something updated to 1.4 but it all works in 1.3.1 except crew science and oceans as far as i can tell.
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<Bornholio> awang can you help out pap by taking a look at Wild Blue Tools 1.19 and how it differes from the new version. and maybe if it can be compiled for 1.3.1
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<Bornholio> pretty please with sugar on top
<awang> Bornholio: Sure
<awang> Why does it have to be 1.19 exactly?
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<Bornholio> i tried others and they didn't work correctly, something about 1.19 makes it work right. Pap is the master though
<awang> Hm
<awang> That sounds odd
<Bornholio> right now its one of the few things that worked in 1.2.2 but now don't
<awang> I see
<awang> Hmmm
<awang> Getting this to compile will be... interesting
<Bornholio> .nodsHead
<awang> Apparently there's a dependency on BARIS?
<Bornholio> odd. but not in 1.19?
<awang> Or wait, yeah
<awang> Forgot to checkout the 1.19 tag
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<awang> Got to go for a bit, so won't be able to respond to problems for a while
<Bornholio> pap ^ is it just a 1.19 recompile?
<awang> This is, yeah
<Probus> RO/RP1/RSS ready for 1.4.1 yet?
<awang> Minor changes to get it to compile with 1.3.1, but it shouldn't affect the more important things
<Bornholio> .pointFinger at Soundnfury
<awang> idk what code RP-0 depends on though
<Bornholio> probus yes
<Probus> Ha! Probably safe to just skip to 1.4.2 :)
<Bornholio> is it already 1.4.1?
<Probus> Its gotta be soon. Before the Historic release I would think
<Bornholio> awang i'll give it a test in an hour or so, and thanks
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<Starwaster> Delta IV Heavy nosecones, 2 tons sound ok?
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<awang> taniwha: You around?