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<wb99999999>
so what do you guys think of the OmegA
<Rokker>
wb99999999: sexy and i love it
<Rokker>
wb99999999: its about time one of the SRB-Hydrolox combos got somewhere
<wb99999999>
well the Shuttle went to space :)
<wb99999999>
but seriously, similar ideas were probably floating around since the Titan days
<wb99999999>
Rokker: someone got to have thought about putting Centaur on top of a UA SRB or something
<Rokker>
wb99999999: I mean the Ares-I/Liberty style crap
<wb99999999>
did Liberty get canceled too?
<Rokker>
forever ago
<Rokker>
wb99999999: long before the merger
<wb99999999>
there's a jink on this configuration...
<wb99999999>
but let's talk RO then
<wb99999999>
now if you try to make such a vehicle in RO there's two problems
<wb99999999>
one is that there's no matching (or even decent approximation) to the SRBs and the other is the lack of a high-power roll thruster
<Bornholio>
i've used the ESA srb for that several times
<wb99999999>
me too, and that one is quite overpowered
<wb99999999>
what about SL roll thrusters?
<wb99999999>
for a vehicle of this size I'd wager you need 2kN in each direction to achieve flexible roll control...
<Bornholio>
lr-101
<Bornholio>
throttled down a bit
<wb99999999>
right...but vernier is so yesterday right?
<Bornholio>
no
<wb99999999>
Okay...
<wb99999999>
but...in the case of SRB+Hydrolox
<wb99999999>
am I going to have extra tankage for kerosene...?
<Bornholio>
you put in extra tankage for N2 for Spacex thrusters...
<Bornholio>
also if you want more srb's there are a large amount in the US rockets pack
<wb99999999>
I think the dev just REALLY wanted that flip to unfold animation
<Rokker>
wb99999999: thats exactly what they wanted
<wb99999999>
and I do think this is why they chose the B over the frankly space-like look of the A
<wb99999999>
the edges and folding wings make it looks evil
<Rokker>
btw, for anyone interested, buncha scifi games on sale on humble bundle
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<Rokker>
wb99999999: i like them F-22 weapons pods
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<wb99999999>
big'o weapon package on F-22 vs railgun-armed fighter jet with a Japanese name
<wb99999999>
which one is less probable?
<Rokker>
wb99999999: japanese name
<wb99999999>
this is a genuine question XD I don't know which one is dumber
<Rokker>
wb99999999:
<Rokker>
oops
<wb99999999>
no big deal, go on
<Rokker>
wb99999999: well plane mounted railguns are a damn long ways away due to the massive power storage capabilities needed as well as the lack of need large guns on planes. the A-10 and older versions of the AC-130 being the only exceptions
<Rokker>
meanwhile the F-22 has a massive weak point in its small payload
<wb99999999>
I thought the proposed solution is "flocks of heavily loaded F-15s and F-35s" rather than "big boxes"...?
<Rokker>
wb99999999: it is
<Rokker>
but
<Rokker>
plans change
<Rokker>
and similar proposals are made rather regularly
<Rokker>
im betting its only a matter of time
<wb99999999>
really?
<wb99999999>
very interesting
<Rokker>
wb99999999: not many official ones, but its pretty common speculation among experts
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<wb99999999>
I am imaging something like the F-15's conformal tank
<wb99999999>
or maybe a piggy back weapons bay, like some of the Russian fuel tanks
<Rokker>
wb99999999: what russian fuel tanks
<Rokker>
wb99999999: i know EEL had top mounted fuel tanks
<wb99999999>
wait...I forgot whether it is Russian or American...