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<Dutchy45> scenario: in the VAB I'm building a rocket. I'm attaching 2 "side rockets" (A and B) using symmetry. Is there a way to attach 2 boosters each to A and B at the same time for balancing purposes? I've figured out how to switch attaching 2 boosters from A and B (so 1 booster each) to attaching only to A (so 2 on A).
<darsie> Dutchy45: I think there's a key to switch symmetry mode. Try all keys :). Or check the main menu settings.
<darsie> My setup could be different due to mods, though.
<darsie> Dutchy45: If you can't find it, you could temporarily put your side rocket on top of the central rocket.
<darsie> There are also subassemblies, but they didn't always work as expected, IIRC.
<JVFoxy> So... a booster with two more on the sides of those?
<Dutchy45> Putting the side rocket on top worked great, thanks darsie!
<JVFoxy> oh...
<Dutchy45> JVFoxy, yeah 2 boosters (side rockets) with boosters on the side of those
<Dutchy45> *sides
<JVFoxy> I've built boosters with two engines on the bottom. Then they were placed around my rocket. Normally I just build the one on the 'dorsal' side with the decoupler. then take it as a temporary assembly, mirror it on the sides.
<darsie> Hmm, 'u' switches between 'radias symmetry around vessle/parent part', but I don't see what this actually does.
<darsie> radial*
<JVFoxy> Darsie ah that
<JVFoxy> it basically lets you mirror it the ship as a whole, or just the part its connected directly to
<JVFoxy> I haven't really used it much..
<darsie> JVFoxy: I don't get it. Or it doesn't work here.
<JVFoxy> I don't know either... sometimes it wants to radius symmetry on the one part instead of the ship which I find annoying.
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<JVFoxy> when a part mirrored or symmetry, further parts connected to those want to maintain whichever the first one was set. sometimes it causes problems
<Dutchy45> typing x changes smmetry attachment from the ship to the part it's connected too
<darsie> Is "Radial symmetry around Parent Part" supposed to work like that? http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot267.png
<Dutchy45> *symmetry
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<JVFoxy> think sometimes it gets confused.
<darsie> I have EEX.
<JVFoxy> you should see some of the weird things struts do when you mix mirror and symmetry on parts
<JVFoxy> Hm... testing something
<JVFoxy> so doesn't work with mirrored
<JVFoxy> when its radial symmetry, only works when its two parts
<JVFoxy> flipping the setting from vessel to parent part doesn't do anything till I hit the symmetry number key
<darsie> What's the symmetry number key?
<JVFoxy> lol... just take care your parts are exactly where you want them when you copy. Soon as you move the mirrored mirrored parts, you loose things
<JVFoxy> 'R' is my key to switch between mirror and radial. F is vessel vs parent parts, C is snap on/off, X is number of symmetry/ mirror on/off
<darsie> Yeah, hitting x did it :) http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot270.png
<darsie> Clicking symmetry number didn't.
<JVFoxy> huh.. oh right F also toggles between absolute and relative when it comes to rotation and offset
<darsie> snap/continuous also affects symmetry, e.g. when putting wheels on rover cores.
<JVFoxy> heh.. clicking while holding part increases sym, but then it resets when I place part over the parent part I wanna use
<JVFoxy> ends up working but sort of counter to how I would have done it
<JVFoxy> I'm so used to the keyboard shortcuts now
<JVFoxy> btw.. if it helps any... VAB/SPH keys at bottom of the page, in gray https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Key_bindings
<JVFoxy> ah .. you using the enhanced VAB features mod. Opps, missed noticing that
<darsie> I have EEX.
<darsie> Editor extension redux
<JVFoxy> er ya.. forgot what it was called
<JVFoxy> its been around for a while. Its nice, mostly cuz you can go up to however many radial parts.. :P
<darsie> 20
<darsie> I think it's also configurable.
<JVFoxy> Can't say my builds have gotten quite that complex yet to need it
<Dutchy45> Can't say that either, lol
<Dutchy45> 20, wow
<JVFoxy> I mean.. if I need 20 spherical tanks around a part, I'd probably use a single large tank inline :)
<packbart> I use the "align these parts with this" feature quite often (it does have its quirks)
<JVFoxy> Vostok-1 had so many little tanks on the service module side... seeing a pic, ok so they held various things, O2, N2.. at least
<Dutchy45> packbart, is that a mod?
<darsie> Could be useful to cover something with small solar panels or batteries.
<packbart> that's part of the EEX mod
<JVFoxy> lol.. quirks.. earlier version, I added struts, mostly to hold a tank in place before separation. Go to launch pad, got the ends of the struts sticking out of the fairing for some stupid reason
<packbart> align the first pair of rover wheels / landing legs, then select it as "master"
<JVFoxy> align with this part is useful when you have a truss sticking out a weird angle. Need to add another, ctrl-click, go to place the copy on the end of the one you copied from. in stock, it'll rotate the thing in weird ways sometimes
<darsie> One nice thing about EEX is you can get 5 or 7x symmetry with x.
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<darsie> 5x command seat for space stations. I think I only realized how to do that now, though. http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot271.png
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<packbart> Klipping Kerbals!
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<Black_Eagle> made a cute SSTO space plane: https://imgur.com/a/qJ5kW0C
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<Althego> "i'm fat, i'm fat" (weird al)
<Black_Eagle> the plane? yes
<packbart> Crouching Shuttle, Hidden Nuke
<Black_Eagle> pfft, crouching shuttle, hidden submarine
<Black_Eagle> i wonder if it floats
<Black_Eagle> let me test real quick
<Althego> in ksp everything floats
<packbart> unless weighed by enough ore in the ballast tanks
<Black_Eagle> yeah it floats
<Black_Eagle> the tanks are half empty
<Black_Eagle> also that thing has 1.5km/s dV in a 80x80 orbit
<Althego> square orbits! :)
<Mat2ch> But then the earth would be square, too, and can't be flat!
<Black_Eagle> blah
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<Ron_Shadow_TTM> Hi, I've got a question regarding the breaking ground dlc. Am I in the right channel for this sort of stuff?
<hatrix> I guess you won't find more accurate than this channel tbh Ron_Shadow_TTM
<hatrix> but either way, don't ask to ask, just ask
<Ron_Shadow_TTM> I bought the dlc a while back and most parts don't work (i.e. they're in my inventory, but I can't place them. They're greyed out as if I hadn't placed a root part like a cockpit yet).
<hatrix> sandbox or career?
<Ron_Shadow_TTM> Sandbox
<hatrix> oh so no tech tree, no idea then
<Ron_Shadow_TTM> it's really strange because the making history dlc is working just fine. Guess I'll install the game without the making history one and see if that works
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<Wastl2> Is it a sandbox game you started before getting the dlc?
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<Ron_Shadow_TTM> Didn't work either in a new sandbox save
<Ron_Shadow_TTM> There I was able to place a limited amount of the dlc parts, but I couldn't install the controller for instance
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<kmath> YouTube - Astronomia (Coffin Dance) on Electric Toothbrushes
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<kmath> <✔KerbalSpaceP> Kerbonauts, we have a mission for you! On May 27, @SpaceX and @NASA are launching astronauts to the @Space_Station… https://t.co/3AIkAnQ7B2
<Mat2ch> nobody thought about doing an announcement here? :P
<Mat2ch> We're getting neglected!
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<Althego> for modern media irc does not exist
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<packbart> plot twist: the winner gets to fly the real mission from the comfort of his KSP chair
<packbart> between that and the ISS docking simulator, SpaceX is looking at outsourcing those parts to the community
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<Guest23028> hello, can someone read this? i have no idea how this works
<Althego> ywa
<darsie> no
<Althego> yes
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<darsie> Guest23028: If someone asks for help, you help.
<Guest23028> how do i make a thing that is orbiting my kerbin and has a relais antenna to actually show up as a relay in the observation center?
<darsie> The tracking station should automatically show it.
<darsie> As relay, if it has a relay antenna.
<Althego> you mean the icon?
<Althego> that is often wrongly assigned
<darsie> If you RMB click the computer you can change the name and icon.
<ShadowJK2> right click probe core
<Althego> the controlling probe
<Guest23028> i launched a drone core into orbit, with solar and batteries and some HG 5 antennae
<darsie> Which difficulty level are you playing?
<Guest23028> thanks guys, i didnt know you could assign that on the core itself under the "rename" section. i thought it was either automatically or done in the observatory....
<Guest23028> Normal
<darsie> Don't need a relay in Kerbin orbit, then.
<Guest23028> why?
<darsie> Ground stations are in range from Kerbin orbit.
<Guest23028> soo?
<darsie> Or are you using mods requiring relays?
<Althego> at least in the unmodified normal. but in hard there are gaps in transmission in lko
<Guest23028> i had to launch a thing into orbit with an antenna for a mission, so i slapped a relay thing on there.
<Guest23028> not using mods, just started out like a week ago
<darsie> Any antenna fulfills this requirement, like the 5 kg communotron 16.
<darsie> It might be useful on the far side of the Mun. Maybe you can push it there.
<Guest23028> so basically anything with power and a relay antenna works as relay right out the box? (if its in a useful postion)
<darsie> yeah. Not sure if power is needed.
<darsie> Time to find out ... :)
<Guest23028> ok thank you. goodbye
<darsie> cu
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<Althego> 16 hours until launch
<Althego> x-37b
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<PineappleCat22> my phone died and i need to quickly continue a discussion about astrophysics on the discord
<PineappleCat22> anyone got the link?
<raptop> blink
<raptop> I assume?
<ShadowJK2> plug it in, turn it on, resume? :)
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<PineappleCat22> heyyyyyyyy
<PineappleCat22> thanks rap
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<raptop> Sudden realization: the vector is a medium engine the size of a small engine
<ShadowJK2> it's supposed to be spacex merlin
<ShadowJK2> Very high thrust to weight ratio
<raptop> Uh, I thought it was an SSME copy?
<raptop> Did that get changed?
<ShadowJK2> oh really?
<ShadowJK2> The specs just screamed spacex to me :)
<raptop> It came with the SLS parts in 0.23.5
<ShadowJK2> one of the remarkable things about ssme was the isp though :(
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