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<JVFoxy> I don't normally do big spaceships. Was mostly messing around with things, ideas. Sort of took some inspiration from Valiant spaceship in the Jovian Chronicles RPG setting... https://imgur.com/a/vtybuiA
<JVFoxy> oh.. ugh, stupid net..
<JVFoxy> oof... ah there we go: https://imgur.com/a/rZmGHsi
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<Althego> hehehe. existential question of the day. if a transformer dies, can you use the corpse as a regular car?
<packbart> don't they usually explode when they die?
<Althego> i dont think so
<raptop> Depends on the form
<raptop> Also, they need to be autobots
<Althego> yes, i thought about that too, as i heard it, they must be autobots obviously
<Althego> and good point, you cant drive around the dead humanoid form
<Althego> hey what happened to the starlink 7 launch?
<Althego> went back to the unknown date pool
<JVFoxy> Althego I tend to think the transformer would stop to work either form. My thinking is while its powered, it uses some tech to help complete the illusion.
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<JVFoxy> uh... I could see a kerbal version of this somehow: https://imgur.com/gallery/02Jr3DO
<Althego> lol
<Althego> wueeee
<JVFoxy> oh.. and title? Cat plays with toy
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<packbart> the frame was built in 1967. nice of imgur commenters to provide a link. https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=N99RJ
<Althego> eh... i didnt read xkcd for a while. and now i learned john conway died
<Althego> fitting
<Althego> guy turns into a glider
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<packbart> giddy. I just ordered my first "gaming" computer (and the first desktop computer I bought in decades). Ryzen R5 and a RTX 2080 "super", 27" 2560x1440 display
<packbart> I'm currently saving a lot on travel costs. would be a shame not to spend it
<packbart> the pro said: buy the best affordable GPU. they become middle-class soon enough while the prices don't drop much. CPUs don't make such great advances performance-wise between models and older variants get cheaper fast
<Mat2ch> got enough ram, too? And a fast nvme ssd? :)
<packbart> yeah. 32GB RAM, 8GB VRAM, 480GB SSD, 1TB HD
<packbart> I meant to buy a gaming laptop - but there I'd either accept a no-so-new GPU or pay way more than I allocated
<JVFoxy> lol.. what have I done...
<JVFoxy> ugh.. night time in game. wanna take a screen shot of some silliness
<JVFoxy> flying ... 'pod' that seats 6...
<Mat2ch> packbart: good choice.
<Mat2ch> now you need a monitor with variable refresh rate for the full experience :D
<packbart> yeah. the Acer thing I ordered doesn't have NVidias G-sync and it's "just" 75Hz
<packbart> we'll see. the pro-gamer I asked said that I probably wouldn't notice it in KSP ;)
<packbart> they just don't know how I play KSP
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<Mat2ch> you wouldn't notice the 2080 in KSP either. But maybe in KSP2 :)
<packbart> my current Quadro FX 1800M laptop GPU is about 10 years old and couldn't fully support game graphics even then. good for design work, though
<packbart> KSP 2 promised more brilliant explosions. I got that covered now, I hope :)
<JVFoxy> I don't know what to say.... https://imgur.com/a/6ZewIHM
<packbart> already the doubts set in. I don't buy computers very often and got no real clue. did I buy the right display? I was going for 24" 1920x1080 at first but then realized it would be an insult to the GPU. I did want LED-IPS instead of LED-TN but am not quite sure, why
<packbart> the 2080 Ti was still much too expensive, so I hope the "super" variant will serve me the next 10+ years or so. I wanted to try AMD Ryzen this time, even though it costs more than Intel. so it's "just" a R5, no R7 or even R9
<packbart> anyway, the bill is paid. now I wait. 3 to 10 days, they said
<Flayer> gone forever, gone forever
<Althego> virgin galactic... 15 years ago they were great. then messed up and they are still nothing. at that time i thought nothing of spacex. now spacex is king and nobody else is even close to them
<packbart> it's the Flat Musk conspiracy at work
<XXCoder> flip musk
<Mat2ch> Althego: well, they will provide some people with some space experience for less than SpaceX
<Althego> they just never get there
<Mat2ch> oh, I guess they will fly passengers soon
<Althego> they stood still while time was moving
<Mat2ch> yeah, sadly
<Althego> this should have happened at least 5 years ago
<Mat2ch> Richard Branson is not that lucky when it comes to airlines and space
<Mat2ch> I have an idea for a real rocket for him, though. But I don't know if he'd listen
<Althego> out of the 3 rich guys one must give us cheap access to space
<Mat2ch> packbart: https://www.xmg.gg/en/en/xmg-ultra-17 but sooooooooo much more expensive than a desktop
<Mat2ch> Althego: Bezos isn't there either. So it'll be Starship
<Mat2ch> 100 people, a few orbits around the earth
<Althego> blue origin is doing something
<Mat2ch> 1 Mio each
<Althego> just not as publicly than spacex
<Mat2ch> blue origin has never reached an orbit
<Althego> true
<packbart> "UNLIMITED CPU POWER" - yay, quantum power!
<Althego> i guess they have more old style development methoids
<Althego> elon's software style seems to work out better
<kmath> YouTube - Power!!! Unlimited POWER!
<Mat2ch> Althego: the style is different because there's nobody you have to explain the failures to
<Mat2ch> and that works well
<Althego> not much to explain
<Mat2ch> if people aren't in fear that mistakes will cost them their jobs or reputation, then they will work differently
<Mat2ch> ah, you are right
<packbart> Mat2ch: about 4k€ at my preferred dealer. not bad :)
<Mat2ch> preaching to the choir :)
<Mat2ch> packbart: 4k is expensive. I can live on 4k for month...
<packbart> yeah, way beyond what I was willing to spend. but less than I expected
<packbart> ok, it's the "plain" 2080. neither super nor Ti
<packbart> something about shader core numbers, iirc
<Mat2ch> that would burn through your desk :D
<packbart> moar is probably better
<Mat2ch> the more, the better!
<Mat2ch> the shader core thingies do shader calculations in parallel, so more means more calculations possible means more fps
<Althego> nvidia rtx is a gimmick
<packbart> and some tensor cores on the non-gaming variants (I looked at the P4000, I think)
<Althego> if we get real raytracing from somehwere, it is going to be amd. why? because the consoles are going to have it
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<Althego> just as consoles are going to push eight thread games
<packbart> well, I switched from Intel CPU to AMD with this one. give me some time. NVidia is the only name I know ;)
<Althego> which is bad for intel, but who cares
<packbart> I remember some pains with AMD GPUs and Linux. but that's old lore
<Althego> strange i always remember nvidia driver issues on linux :)
<Althego> ok, amd wa sprobably somewhat worse
<Althego> this box gets to be 5 years old now. still decent, not great though. i thought i would buy the next one next year, because of 5 nm and new socket. but then it turned out we get pcie5 and ddr5 in 2022
<Althego> damn, 7 years is really stretching it
<Mat2ch> my old one was also 7 years old. I'm happy it lasted that long, but also happy I could afford a new one.
<Mat2ch> Well, this year I wont be able to make any investments in such things. I might have to register as unemployed next month :/
<Althego> eh
<packbart> and that's why I'm spending the money now while I still have it. it's not looking too bleak right now but we're just a small business
<Mat2ch> yeah, I'm waiting for call to know if I can keep my business at the side and still get some support. But this year is weird.
<packbart> it's a bug in the Matrix. it can't handle years with repeating numbers like 2020 or 1919. probably some low-level byte-order glitch
* packbart tries to reverse the polarity of the neutron flow
<Flayer> i'm good for two months at least, that's more security than I've had in a long time tbh
<Mat2ch> well, I was good for a few month, but they are over now ;)
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<Flayer> hehe, 139.975t rocket to launch enough fuel for at least 4 mun landings
<Flayer> don't have to upgrade the launch platform just yet!
<Mat2ch> and after the 4 mun landings you will have enough money to do so I guess...
<Flayer> i'm trying to upgrade the tech thing
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<Dutchy45> Hey guys, my x-science isn't working. I've been away from the game for a long time. Did something happen that I'm not aware of? (I hope it's ok to ask mod questions here)
<Flayer> Yes.
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<Dutchy45> Okay :) Can you explain? Yes to x-science Q or mod Q?
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<Dutchy45> And if x-science, is there a way to fix it?
<Mat2ch> did you update the game recently?
<Mat2ch> Then you might need a new version of x-science
<Mat2ch> also it is possible that it's no longer supported. Best advice is to take a look at the forum thread of the mod
<Dutchy45> Ok, thanks Mat2ch. I'll have a look there
<Dutchy45> I looked. Is it now a mod you have to pay for? The message I got is that I've gotta buy a winrar license
<Mat2ch> what
<Mat2ch> link please
<Mat2ch> also x-science seems to be abandoned
<packbart> x-science or [x] science?
<packbart> the latter works for me
<Mat2ch> it's the same
<packbart> ( https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/182683-ksp-190-x-science-continued-ksp-science-report-and-checklist-v523/ )
<packbart> ack
<Mat2ch> Flupster forked it
<Mat2ch> Dutchy45: click either link above and you should get a working version of it
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<Mat2ch> I personally think ScienceAlert is better, but that's just a matter of taste
<packbart> joys of a shared namespace. "ScienceAlert ReAlerted". I see. I mainly used the mod so I don't have to click on every single goo container in the early flights
<packbart> I like Kerbalism's way where science experiment take (a long) time to run but can be automated and left to themselves
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<Dutchy45> Thanks Mat2ch and packbart! I hope my limited computer skills are enough to figure this out
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<kmath> <✔RocketLab> We've rolled Electron out at LC-2 in Virginia for the 1st time! We're gearing up for our 1st mission from U.S. soil… https://t.co/CyuilT3g2S
<Althego> eh
<Althego> delete the last character
<kmath> <✔RocketLab> We've rolled Electron out at LC-2 in Virginia for the 1st time! We're gearing up for our 1st mission from U.S. soil… https://t.co/CyuilT3g2S
<kmath> <✔SpaceX> Crew Dragon at the Cape undergoing final preparations ahead of first flight to the @Space_Station with @NASA astron… https://t.co/kGQinbanfz
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<Mat2ch> there's a live stream for the SN4 test, but I guess it'll take a while until the real test is started.
<kmath> YouTube - NSF Live: Starship SN4 update from the launch site, NASA awards contracts for crewed lunar landers
<Mat2ch> they're still working on the rocket itself
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