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<darsie>
:)
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* packbart
goes to file a bug that stacked command seats do not "support at least ten kerbals" ;)
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<Webchat942>
hello, i am having trouble completing a satellite placement contract, the orbit that it wants is pretty much the exact orbit of Ike and it has to be above a certain point on the planet which Ike is already occupying 🤔
<ObservatoryRaptop>
Sounds like a bug
<Webchat942>
am i allowed to post screenshot links?
<Althego>
that would make the solar system really strange
<ObservatoryRaptop>
Some physics people do. I'd hope for a super earth/sub neptune, really
<Althego>
but we would gain an insteresting object relatively close by
<Althego>
yes we need a super earth
<Althego>
there are already some unusual features in the solar system, the less we have, the better it is for probable life elsewhere
* ObservatoryRaptop
eyes the moon uneasily
<Althego>
the sun already is not exactly the most common type, then it rotates slowly, and then we have this unusual moon. we also dont have a super earth, and having a black hole on top of that would be just weird
<ObservatoryRaptop>
The sun is adequately common. I'd still wait for at least JWST (and maybe HabEx) before making any definitive statements about the habitability of M-dwarf planets, though
<Althego>
always only a few years more :)
<ObservatoryRaptop>
lolsob
<Althego>
what would the head of nasa say if rocket with jwst exploded on the launchpad? easy come, easy go
<ObservatoryRaptop>
aaaaaaaaaaaaa
<Althego>
(there is this joke where the lumberman goes each day to the forest to fell trees. he sells the trees for a small amount of money. after 20 years he goes into the city to gamble, puts all his money on a number, and loses. easy come, easy go)
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* Deddly
just watched "The first man". Why didn't they call it "Camera shake simulator"?
<Althego>
hehe
<Deddly>
And also, when they burn prograde in orbit, it's like warp speed
<Deddly>
The earth just zooms off in the distance
<Althego>
hehe
<Althego>
remember the scene from first contact when they launch the rocket?
<Althego>
and i am like: no, you dont go straight up
<Deddly>
I don't remember that
<Deddly>
But it was such a long time ago since I saw that film, I wouldn't have been educated by KSP
<Althego>
you reminded me to this because of warp speed
<Deddly>
Ah
<Deddly>
I liked Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning as a parody to that film
<packbart>
Aye
<Mat2ch>
Althego: with the warp thingy you do go straight up
<Althego>
yes but it launched on a rocket
<Mat2ch>
because you don't need an orbit
<Mat2ch>
And old icbm
<Althego>
and in the scene you could see them being more than 1000 km up and still going up
<Althego>
before they went to warp
<Mat2ch>
which is totally possible
<Althego>
ok, what if the warp drive fails
<Althego>
you fall back straigth down
<Mat2ch>
yep
<Althego>
it would be still safer to just remain in orbit
<Mat2ch>
Depends
<Althego>
also they never explained how they survived reentry
<Mat2ch>
did you see any sign of a rentry possibility?
<Althego>
no, not really
<Mat2ch>
Yeah, that's what bothers me the most
<JVFoxy>
was probably left open for later figuring out?
<Mat2ch>
Technically you could jump to warp when you upward motion is nearing zero
<Mat2ch>
and then jump back at a very low altitude
<Mat2ch>
then you would fall, but accelerate pretty slowly
<JVFoxy>
ya but any ships ever tried warping into atmos?
<Mat2ch>
somebody should try this in RSS :P
<Althego>
hehe
<Althego>
yes these are viable
<Mat2ch>
JVFoxy: 200 km up is almost no atmosphere, but falling down will be not that deadly
<Althego>
but not really for an early prototype
<Althego>
say i am the inventor and i intend to launch on my own rocket. would i do it like this? no way
<Mat2ch>
Have drogue chutes, deploy them early
<Mat2ch>
Althego: depends of if you wanna get back or not...
<Mat2ch>
*depends on
<FLHerne>
Althego: To be fair, if you think it's *close* to working, falling back into the atmosphere is the least of your potential problems
<FLHerne>
ISTR that flaky warp drives are interesting to be around
<JVFoxy>
trying to figure out how the ship go back down.. feeling Enterprise might have helped in some way..?
<Althego>
istr looks like a fortran intrinsic function
<Althego>
but again, unless cochran was planning for a suicide, he could not have taken that into account in his original design
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<FLHerne>
According to Memory Alpha, effects of misconfigured warp drives can include a "wormhole effect", hyperspatial distortions, improbably rapid genetic mutation, or just destruction of the ship
<FLHerne>
So anyone terribly concerned about their personal safety should just refrain from piloting experimental warp spacecraft at all
<TheKosmonaut>
The funny thing w/ the movies is they always seem to just say to hell with it when it comes to their established* propulsion/mechanical rules
<Deddly>
TheKosmonaut, Kirk could also use impulse and Twist drive whenever he wanted
<Deddly>
Sorry, I mean Pirk
<TheKosmonaut>
The problem w/ impulse is that time dilation becomes a factor
<Althego>
twist drive?
<Deddly>
Althego, Star Wreck :)
<Althego>
yes it is a factor if you are using to move fast enough
<TheKosmonaut>
But again, Impulse seems to change in every season and indeed from season to season
<TheKosmonaut>
Then you get Inertial Dampening systems which are super magic
<TheKosmonaut>
effectively reducing the mass of a vessel
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<Judge_Dedd>
the
<Judge_Dedd>
TheKosmonaut, I always imagined inertial dampers were an application of artificial-gravity tech
<TheKosmonaut>
Also magic
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<Althego>
and how does gravity change the mass?
<flayer>
i'm sleepy
<Mat2ch>
Althego: depends on how gravity works...
<TheKosmonaut>
IDs were a combined use of the artificial gravity and the structural integrity field
<Althego>
ah another magic phrase
<Althego>
what is structural integrity field
<TheKosmonaut>
TECHNOBABBLE
<Judge_Dedd>
Universal translators are also magic
<TheKosmonaut>
Technobabble is great, because every explanation just brings a new word into the lexicon
<packbart>
"An overloading [Inertial Dampening Field] has the opposite effect of most Applied Phlebotinum, causing a greater inertial effect, usually culminating in a Star Trek Shake" :) ( https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InertialDampening )
<Althego>
also structural integrity field is the weakest shield in tyrian
<TheKosmonaut>
You want to realign your inertial dampeners?
<TheKosmonaut>
Try reversing the polarization on the tachyon emitters
<TheKosmonaut>
You tachyon emitters are not primed? Have you considered inverting the EPS manifold pressure?
<TheKosmonaut>
No such luck eh?
<TheKosmonaut>
Ok, here's an idea...
* TheKosmonaut
grabs random object
<TheKosmonaut>
this is the ship
* TheKosmonaut
throws ship into rubbish bin
<packbart>
shunt all power from the life support to the deflector. that usually works
<TheKosmonaut>
now go look inside and find a solution, because they're all pretty much trash
<flayer>
i'm tired
<TheKosmonaut>
packbart: To do that, you will need to manually change the particle flow by going through 10km of Jefferies' tubes
<TheKosmonaut>
better send the captain and first officer on such a perilous mission
<packbart>
a good sonic screwdriver will revert the polarity of the neutron flow in a jiffy
<TheKosmonaut>
What? You have a superpowered android that doesnt need to breathe and is practically indestructible?
<TheKosmonaut>
Dont send him, keep him at the helm, operating the ship BY HAND
<Althego>
hehe
<TheKosmonaut>
You have a holographic doctor that can literally not be killed?
<flayer>
lol
<TheKosmonaut>
Nope, he needs to have feelings in his office for a girl that only lives 5 years
<Althego>
yes, the ship computer should be quite capable since it can run intelligent holo characters in its spare time
<flayer>
but the photon emitters or some such don't reach in the jeffery tubes!
<Althego>
so why exactly do they depend upon human interventin all the time?
<packbart>
unions
<Althego>
yes i know it wouldnt be interesting
<TheKosmonaut>
You have a rogue AI hologram that can leave the confines of the holodeck, is super intelligent, and wants to find a life of its own? AND it's taken on the personality of Dr. Moriarty from teh Sherlock HOlmes novels?
<TheKosmonaut>
Better not explain how he got off the holodeck
<flayer>
TheKosmonaut, they were on the holodeck the entire time!
<TheKosmonaut>
So holograms, like data, are used as a sort of metaphor for racism
<TheKosmonaut>
which is why theyre in the show to begin with
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<TheKosmonaut>
It's revealed in an episode of VOY that the Doctor's EMH program was refitted to mine dilithium (or some other magical element) in harsh conditions
<packbart>
possibly. I'm just going by the name of the parameter and I've seen commnet lines passing through the surface. I don't how it works exactly :)