07:45 <Blu3wolf> Anyone familiar with FAR or FAR continued? Ive got an odd situation I want to check to see if others have it. A Mk1 pod is low drag, the same pod with a parachute on top is 'normal' drag. Replace the parachute with a dmagic magnetometer and add radial chutes, and the drag is a fraction of the 'normal' drag.

07:45 <Blu3wolf> With the normal drag, I hit the water from a re-entry around 100 m/s. With the low drag, I hit the water between 500m/s and 1000 m/s

07:47 <Blu3wolf> Checking FAR(c)'s windows, I see the Cd value is around 1.2 for the normal drag, and 0.06 for the low drag, so it makes sense - but it doesnt make sense that there is such a big drag difference. Lost two kerbals I care about in career mode to this, wondering if perhaps my understanding of drag isnt as adequate as I thought, or whether it could be a MFI issue or the part or something.

11:37 <darsie> 1337

11:38 <Althego> this time i noticed it too

12:15 <Deddly> ?

12:17 <darsie> Deddly: It's like saying Happy New Year.

12:18 <Deddly> What, 1337?

12:18 <darsie> yes

12:18 <Deddly> How?

12:18 <darsie> It's leetspeak for (e)leet (elite). You say it at 13:37.

12:18 <Deddly> Oh right.

12:18 <darsie> If you're cool :).

12:19 <Deddly> I knew 1337 is leet, but I'm not cool enough to know you're supposed to say it at 13:37. Makes sense now.

12:34 <Mat2ch> Youngling!

12:34 <Mat2ch> back in the days, we all talked l1k3 7h1s

12:34 <Mat2ch> (not really ;)

12:37 <sandbox> 1337

12:38 <packbart> only when sneaking into the Amiga-only BBS

14:30 <Althego> what's happening

14:30 <Althego> sn5 is moved

14:30 <packbart> nothing much, SN5 rolling out

14:30 <packbart> https://spacelaunchnow.me/launch/starship-sn5-150m-hop/ says it might hop next week

14:31 <Althego> hah

14:39 <FLHerne> Depends how much of the SN4 testing they duplicate?

14:40 <FLHerne> They could definitely do one static fire and then a hop in a week

14:41 <Althego> i doubt they can skip static fire

14:42 <Althego> and that also pressurizes the tank too, so if they are in a hurry, can skip tha tank test

14:47 <FLHerne> Before they were doing it separately to not risk the Raptor

14:47 <FLHerne> But I don't *think* the structure is very different on SN5?

14:49 <Althego> what about the material? or is that from sn7 onwards?

15:12 <Mat2ch> They probably are going to do pressure tests tomorrow, then install the engine and do static fire tests

15:12 <Mat2ch> oh and the quick release test, without the engine attached...

15:13 <Mat2ch> and they wont go over 7.5 bars, because that's enough for now and they need the flight data

17:22 <Althego> i was waiting for zeus to show up yesterday. but it was there, i just didnt notice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm5hrbLSH2k

17:22 <kmath> YouTube - SpaceX's Zeus Sniffing SN7 After Test to Failure

17:40 <Althego> wintergatan

17:44 <Althego> also hard brown box lol

17:53 <umaxtu> they still have fixed planes wanting to do a 180 after touchdown?

18:01 <Althego> if you mean ksp, i havent noticed an issue with that. there were versions previously with that now not really

18:02 <FLHerne> umaxtu: Tweaking the brake strengths can help with that

18:03 <umaxtu> I had brakes set to 200 on the rear wheels and 50 in the front

18:03 <FLHerne> Also, while rolling, it helps if the centre of wheel-drag is behind the centre of mass :p

18:04 <FLHerne> But if it's too far, the rear wheels get unloaded...

18:04 <umaxtu> so bring the rear-wheel brake strength down?

18:05 <Althego> i would increase it on the rear wheels

18:06 <Althego> it should have the same effect as adding fins for flight

18:06 <umaxtu> ok thanks. is there any way to visualize the center of wheel drag?

18:07 <Althego> i havent heard of anything like that

18:08 <umaxtu> k