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<Agathorn> might be tempted to see if my ksp 1.1 install still works this weekend
<stratochief_> Agathorn: why wouldn't it work?
<Agathorn> nothing is a constant
<Agathorn> files get deleted
<Agathorn> drives go bad
<Agathorn> If that was on my old D drive for example
<Agathorn> which I had to bury a few months ago
<stratochief_> ouch, shit. RIP D drive
<Agathorn> the upside is after lamenting the loss of tons of porn, I bought a Drobo and a stack of disks so I came out stronger :D
<stratochief_> sorry to hear that. I've have a few HDD scrares, but nothing dead and lost for 2-3 years now, and that was easily replacable
<stratochief_> whats a Drobo? sounds like 'Drop Box' but slang
<Agathorn> its a NAS raid system
<stratochief_> ahh. I've considered NAS-ing for a long time, never had the money to spare
<Agathorn> got it on a black friday sale along with 5 4tb drives to go in it
<xShadowx> Agathorn: how much drives / space?
<Agathorn> so now I dont have to worry about losing data, and I have a lot more space than I had before
<xShadowx> i got 4 bays for 4x 4tb, so i got 8tb to store all my scifi :D
<stratochief_> any redundancy in that NAS?
<Agathorn> ~15tb single redunancy storage
<stratochief_> doesn't single redundancy mean no redundancy? :P
<xShadowx> raid5?
<Agathorn> no it means I can lose one drive
<Agathorn> not two
<Agathorn> without losing data
<xShadowx> sounds like raid5
<stratochief_> gotcha
<Agathorn> It is a custom raid solution they make
<Agathorn> Its kind of the Apple of RAID I guess lol.. not for hobbiest snobs, but for rich snobs
<xShadowx> i use raid6 so i can lose any 2 drives
<Agathorn> I like it because it doesn't require identical disks
<xShadowx> if 1 fails, you're basicly at risk until replacement
<Agathorn> I can even mix disks of different capacity, and it is hot swappable
<stratochief_> that iss handy
<xShadowx> wirth raid6, any 1 can fail, and you arent at risk while ordering replacement
<xShadowx> plus scifi collections
<xShadowx> i aint losin that shit :P
<Agathorn> yes, but honestly I rarely have even 1 fail, the chances of 2nd fail while ordering a replacemnt is slim
<xShadowx> SCIFI
<xShadowx> COLLECTION
<Agathorn> I have cloud backup as well
<xShadowx> I HALL BE BURRIED WITH IT
<Agathorn> this isn't a single point of failure
<xShadowx> hdd are cheap enough that raid6 is practical heh
<Agathorn> I can enable dual redundancy if I want
<xShadowx> and i cant stand optical disks ;x
<Agathorn> i'd rather have the space though
<xShadowx> 8tb i have about 3tb filled
<Agathorn> I'd lose almost 5tb if I enabled dual redundancy
<xShadowx> but what do you have to fill 16tb? daz alot of porn, even in hd
<Agathorn> porn expands to fill all available space
<Agathorn> but its basically all my non-application data
<xShadowx> all my ksp backups use <500gb
<Agathorn> so all my tv shows, movies, code, etc
<Agathorn> I'm only using a fraction right now
<xShadowx> about 2tb in scifi (i never really cared for hd)
<xShadowx> i figure if i ever finally fill the 8tb, i can switch up to 10tb disks lol
<xShadowx> be 3-4 years to fill at current rate tho
<xShadowx> by then prolly be to 20-30tb disks
<xShadowx> admittedly i kinda regret gettin the 4tb disks, didnt get em right when they came out, let price drop a bit, but then almost right after i bought, 6 8 10 tb came out -.- doh
<xShadowx> lolz all my code projects use <50mb
<xShadowx> text files <3
<Agathorn> well code includes assets..like Unreal and Unity projects
<Agathorn> few TB there
<Agathorn> 90% of it is video files though
<Agathorn> I've been ripping my blurays as well and those, especially in stereoscopic can take up a lot of space
<xShadowx> i dont consider assets part of it, because models/textures get classified as assets too, assets folder is 1.2tb
<xShadowx> whatcha use to rip blurays?
<xShadowx> recently bought TNG on bluray so pokin around for software
<Agathorn> a confusing mix of things that I don't really understand
<Agathorn> no one single progrm sadly
<xShadowx> :(
<Agathorn> for plain 2d I use handbrake
<Agathorn> but for 3d I have to jump through a few cli tools
<Agathorn> I don't know how they work i just have saved command lines in a text file that I use
<xShadowx> i keep tryin to make VLC play em but it keeps tellin me to buzz off
<xShadowx> so hopin if i rip em and put in nas, i can play em as vids and not bluray
<xShadowx> my usual conversion software wont do above dvd though -.-
<Agathorn> well for just plain 2d you should be able to use AnyDVD (for decrypt) and Handbrake
<xShadowx> using any dvd converter o.O that?
<Agathorn> though it isn't called AnyDVD actually anymore due to them being shutdown.. I forget the new name but its the same damned program :)
<Agathorn> no
<Agathorn> AnyDVD is a simple app that just runs in the tray and decrypts the disk on the fly when someoenthing else is reading it
<xShadowx> ah
<Agathorn> ALL it does is decryption
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<stratochief_> I don't know why, but I love artificial gravity bigly
<stratochief_> damn, I'm just unlocking the US1205, then expecting it to put my station in orbit. I better check if it has TestFlight profiel before that launch goes south
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<xShadowx> real men dont have to check first!
<stratochief_> this true scotsman records his videos, and doesn't like when things go south unexpectedly. I like to see my failures coming
<xShadowx> thats kinda what i dont like about TF
<xShadowx> if stuff fails, you revert, fixes
<xShadowx> be kinda nice if it used vesselID or such as a seed, sure itll tell you at launch A B C ill fail (if you wanna spoil it and look) but your ship is launched now, reverting wont cheat you to better, go with it
<stratochief_> xShadowx: I think you misunderstand me; if I know TestFlight has a config for it, then I will invest in research, or make a less important/impressive launch first to prove/improve the hardware
<xShadowx> sure but i still like my idea ;p
<xShadowx> and seed would bring preventatitive maintainance
<stratochief_> I wish stock had gimballing solid rockets, then I could do a Utah Space Program of all solids, and actually have some fun/challenge in stock
* xShadowx shuns stratochief_ for wanting to play stock
<stratochief_> time to pop some corn, the watch PBS do a post mortem of the Failing Trump Administration's attempt at repeal and replace
<xShadowx> i saw post mortem failing trump and was like.....trump is going away?:D
<stratochief_> I was making use of Trump's own favourite "The Failing New York Times" jab, against the low energy weak president, after he failed biggly
<stratochief_> also, Gorsuch said 'bigly', and I think i chocked on a hairball
<stratochief_> hmm, doesn't appear to be a TF profile for the UA 1205. but to be fair, I can't think of a case where one failed. I'll give the flight record a quick look before i settle into that
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<NathanKell> stratochief_: The 5 didn't, but the 6 sure did. I think it was a 6? On a 34D IIRC.
<NathanKell> stratochief_: 34D-9
<stratochief_> Your memory continues to amaze me. Also welcome, good to see you this evening :)
<stratochief_> no Titan+ solid failures until the mid 80s, or at least few? not a shabby record
<NathanKell> I had to look up the exact failure, so meh. :D (I remembered it happened, because it was the Annus Horribilis for NASA - Challenger, then a Delta [which _never_ happens] and a Titan, the Titan right in front of a crowd
<NathanKell> )
<NathanKell> And thanks, good to be here :)
<stratochief_> I saw a video this week of a Titan 3C or something with solids passing through MaxQ, very cool to see all those.. mach clouds? what are they called? fade in and dissipate
<NathanKell> Huh, awesome!
<stratochief_> I tried to share it with Alana one morning at 7am, she wasn't too interested. https://youtu.be/seT2dZ5aKGU?t=6m21s
<NathanKell> LAWL
<NathanKell> I'd get the same I'm sure ^_^
<NathanKell> Mars Observer--Probably a IV?
<NathanKell> Oh huh, it says III on it, nm :D
<stratochief_> I would also expect a IV. perhaps incorrect labelling, or a really light payload/good Mars window?
<NathanKell> It says last III launch, so right before the IVs came online
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<NathanKell> o/ rsparkyc, we meet at last! :)
<rsparkyc> \o NathanKell!
<rsparkyc> still working on your move?
<NathanKell> Unpacking GF's computer as we speak, yeah
<NathanKell> Nearing the end at least
<NathanKell> Cross-country takes sooo long >.>
<rsparkyc> your on west coast? east coast? dont want to say?
<NathanKell> NYC->Seattle
<rsparkyc> awesome, have some coworkers out there
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<rsparkyc> since i've never gotten to tell you personally: Thank's for all the work you've put into KSP!
<rsparkyc> s/'//
<Qboid> rsparkyc meant to say: since ive never gotten to tell you personally: Thank's for all the work you've put into KSP!
<rsparkyc> hmm, that didn't work
<NathanKell> Ah, thanks so much!! :)
<NathanKell> Qboid is sometimes fickle :]
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<stratochief_> NathanKell: I'm not sure if you've seen, but rsparkyc did some brilliant work on a procedural avionics system
<stratochief_> in the RP-0 repo, IIRC
<rsparkyc> yep, it's there
<rsparkyc> actually working on my first ever stand alone mod now too
<rsparkyc> stratochief_ wouldn't like it, he doesn't use RemoteTech
<stratochief_> rsparkyc: you're communication systems to shut off when the batteries die, right? then they wait to reconnect until batteries have charged?
<rsparkyc> yep
<rsparkyc> with configurable activate/deactivate thresholds
<rsparkyc> working on the forum post for it now
<NathanKell> stratochief_: Yeah, saw it developing a few weeks ago but lost track. Super, super glad you've taken it on rsparkyc!
<rsparkyc> yeah, it's been merged into develop, but should be a good first step
<rsparkyc> master, not develop
<rsparkyc> (if I was at work it would be develop)
<NathanKell> Feel free to sanify the repo, obvs. :)
<NathanKell> I never really bothered, but then I was never super rigorous period ^_^
<rsparkyc> yeah, at work, when we go to master, it auto-cuts a tag for us
<NathanKell> ah ya
<NathanKell> I believe Sarbian has a jenkins run for every master (or even develop?) commit as well
<rsparkyc> yeah, that's where i go to look for latest mechjeb releases
<rsparkyc> I wish there was a way NOT to auto-merge my initial post and next comment in the forumns
<NathanKell> have someone else post, then post, then have the friend delete their post
<rsparkyc> http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/158177-122-antenna-power-saver-v010-32417/
<rsparkyc> someone have at it
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<blowfish> rsparkyc: yeah, that can be slightly annoying. I think there's some time threshold between them, either 5 or 10 minutes
<rsparkyc> yeah, i waited about 5, will probably try again in a bit
<blowfish> NathanKell: I don't think non-god users can delete their posts, only edit :)
<rsparkyc> i was actually hoping NathanKell was going to be the first to post on mine, and then I was going to tell him NOT to delete it :)
<stratochief_> rsparkyc: celebrity endorsement? ;)
<rsparkyc> stratochief_: exactly
<stratochief_> NK is back from the dead, just to take first post on your new mod1
<rsparkyc> lol, yep
<stratochief_> damn, I think KCT just ate my Titan II Gemini on the second launch pad. somehow didn't kil the astronauts. I'm truely confused, but I'll work it out tomorrow
<rsparkyc> well, considering it's almost midnight over here, I think i'm going to go to bed, gnight all
<stratochief_> o/ gnite rsparkyc
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<NathanKell> blowfish: Oh right new forum. Welp, I don't have god powers anymore so...
<NathanKell> I gotta go nomz, back later!
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* xShadowx blinks
<xShadowx> nah.....just a dream.....
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<xShadowx> NathanKell: wb :D
<xShadowx> anymore wandering cross country? or only unpacking mode left?
<NathanKell> xShadowx: Only unpacking thankfully
<xShadowx> :D
<xShadowx> i'll be moving in a few months i think x.x
<xShadowx> bleh
<xShadowx> hopefully to a diff state, so i got limited time left to stalk you
<xShadowx> trying to find a place thats waterfront, with a creek going to the water
<xShadowx> sadly so few places like that exist XD
<NathanKell> I grew up in one, but yeah, they're rare now :]
<NathanKell> Wrong coast for ya tho
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<xShadowx> i dont care what coast
<xShadowx> i kinda want florida
<xShadowx> tropical weather nicer than cold :P
<xShadowx> parents retired, so following them
<xShadowx> btw ignore people claiming it rains too much, it doesnt really, about right
<xShadowx> winters here not too bad, little snow if any
<blowfish> From southern California I ask "Seasons? What are those?"
<NathanKell> Singers.
<NathanKell> And on that note, night all :)
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<xShadowx> blowfish: a hotel
<xShadowx> :)
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<egg> arghrlarb keep missing the NathanKell|AWAY
<egg> !wa time in NathanKell
<Qboid> egg: Seems that Wolfram is unable to understand that.
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<stratochief_> egg: NK is on the Pacific coast now
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<egg> !wa time in Vandenberg
<Qboid> egg: Seems that Wolfram is unable to understand that.
<egg> !wa time in California
<Qboid> egg: current time in California (US state): 7:04:03 am PDT | Saturday, March 25, 2017
<Thomas> He said seattle
<Thomas> (in case you want to know)
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<egg> Thomas: yeah, he told me that too
<egg> Thomas: but I wanted to use a launch site
<egg> Thomas: that failed though :-\
<Thomas> ^^
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<TheKosmonaut> He’s working for Starbucks now
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<Probus> If you want to make a Gemini Big G that is fully operational, do you have to swap out the bottom docking port with the agena version?
<Probus> No one has fixed that yet stratochief_, Raidernick?
<zilti> Hmm, how do I get the other launch sites with RSS/RO/RP-0? Sending a Kerbonaut there? Unlocking with science?
<Probus> You do have KSCSwitcher installed?
<zilti> Yes. But Kennedy Space Center is the only available option
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<soundnfury> so of my first three shots at lunar flyby from polar orbit, one (#3) succeeded (Pe 3300km).
<Qboid> [#3] title: Added yearIntroduced to KW and AIES engines | | https://github.com/KSP-RO/RealismOverhaul/issues/3
<soundnfury> Now trying again with # 4, shut up Qboid
<soundnfury> (LV is basically a Thor/Ablestar with an XASR.1 kick stage)
<zilti> soundnfury: I'm about to try the same with the "original" Luna R7 rocket from Baikonur - did you use a parking orbit or go directly?
<soundnfury> parking orbit
<soundnfury> using konrad to time the kick burn (because kick stage is unguided)
<soundnfury> about to make the burn... 1 minute to go
<stratochief_> zilti: I haven't tried KSCSwitcher in 1.2.2 ; not sure it has an update, I haven't checked
<stratochief_> Probus: define "fully operational" ; what do you want it to dock with?
<zilti> stratochief_: Turns out it doesn't yet, but there's a pull request with a working version
<Probus> stratochief_, dock with anything. I don't think it has a mate.
<stratochief_> Probus: agena port only passes fuel, not people, that is no use for docking with a station.
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<soundnfury> well, got quite a lot of wobble, but konrad says I'm gonna get about a 3500km lunar Pe, so good enough :)
<Probus> Good thing you told me that, I was about to launch it. :|
<stratochief> Probus: yeah, there is no mate. ideally, the mate would be a scaled up Apollo LEM cone, which shouldn't be too hard to make. I'm not going the Big Gemini path myself, so I never did that myself, but you should :P
<stratochief> for my Gemini B, docking with a MOL I'm using the Apollo male and female dockign ports
<Probus> Also, FYI, the Big G Escape Tower has no smoke and rips the entire front off the gemini capsule on top of the Big G.
<stratochief> Probus: lol, interesting. might need a slightly lower thrust, or strengthen the joints somehow. Could you record the bugs you run into like that in an RO "Issue"? That would make it easier for someone to come around and address them in the future
<Probus> You bet!
<stratochief> Probus: those should all be fairly straightforward issues to address, if you're interested in doing them. We're here and happy to help. Otherwise, using Issues for tracking is still a big help
<stratochief> RO is 90% copy-paste-tweak from a similar config (like a different escape tower), 10% testing :P
<soundnfury> stratochief: I think I'd put the percentages the opposite way around sometimes, but yeah xD
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<stratochief> my artificial gravity proof of concept got a lot of attention. that is the most comments I've ever had on a video in such a short time.
<xShadowx> im at work and no ksp, care to test somethin?;p
<xShadowx> stock is fine, pod > like 5 girders > pod, put in crew, be in space, spin
<xShadowx> see if grav
<xShadowx> wanted to know if grav uses vessel CoM or part CoM but always forget :(
<xShadowx> if former, really ksp should change it :P
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<xShadowx> might even be moddable, thatd be something fairly basic
<stratochief> xShadowx: preparing for a meeting this afternoon, so probably not. but if I feel up to the multitask I might ;)
<xShadowx> no rush :)
<stratochief> I predict vessel CoM, given how my gravity experiment reacts when I use KIS to go from "undocked" tethered to "docked" and the MechJeb reported G force goes to zero
<xShadowx> i predict vessel CoM cuz squad
<stratochief> prediction based on somewhat correlated experiment > prediction based on cynicism :P
<xShadowx> oh mine is entirely based on correlated experiments - every sane/realism test ive done with stock :P
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<stratochief> egg: was the experience... taxing?
<stratochief> I get an odd flicker of atmo during ascent with Scatterer in 1.2.2 ; any similar experiences?
<xShadowx> egg: id tell you some tax jokes, but I doubt you'd depreciate it
<egg> stratochief: nah, twas fine really (still no income over the relevant period, so it's fairly easy, just a couple of accounts to declare, and my taxes are 24 CHF for eggsisting)
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<Starwaster> is anyone actively working on the 'engines explode on decoupling' bug? (SolverEngines related)
<blowfish> was maybe going to take a look at it, haven't gotten the chance yet though
<stratochief> Starwaster: not that I'm aware of nope. I haven't seen that issue at all, or heard of it before now. Is it a recent one?
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<Starwaster> stratochief, engines explode when decoupled
<Starwaster> I haven't had a chance to trace it back to whatever is setting the temp so high
<Starwaster> could also be rfsolver I suppose, which derives from SolverEngines
<Starwaster> something is setting engineTemp (or possibly chamberTemp which in the RF version affects engineTemp) to a ridiculously high level when the engine is decoupled
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