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<Rokker> you piece of shit
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<stratochief|vacation> up down, up down
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<ThisDay> Important events in space history for April 14: A decree is issued for the production of Russian R1 and R2 missiles, as well as the design of the R3 in 1948. Vanguard 3A fails to make orbit due to a second stage malfunction in 1959. NASA issues a study contract for improving the Mercury spacecraft in 1961. The Vehicle (then-Vertical) Assembly Building is topped out in 1965. STS-1, launched two days earlier, lands safely at Edwards Air Force Base in 1981.
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<stratochief|vacation> Rokker: why not take your poor bot to bot torture to test them out?
<Rokker> stratochief|vacation: because i needed 2 channels for the test
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<xShadowx> so make 2 instead of spam ro+kspo :P
<xShadowx> or use kspmodders, itd be a step up from greys anime hour
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<ThisDay> Space history for April 14: A decree is issued for the production of Russian R1 and R2 missiles, as well as the design of the R3 in 1948. Vanguard 3A fails to make orbit due to a second stage malfunction in 1959. NASA issues a study contract for improving the Mercury spacecraft in 1961. The Vehicle (then-Vertical) Assembly Building is topped out in 1965. STS-1, launched two days earlier, lands safely at Edwards Air Force Base in 1981.
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<BadRocketsCo> what is the link to the golder spreadsheet again?
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<Theysen> gday
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<ThisDay> Space history for April 14: A decree is issued for the production of Russian R1 and R2 missiles, as well as the design of the R3 in 1948. Vanguard 3A fails to make orbit due to a second stage malfunction in 1959. NASA issues a study contract for improving the Mercury spacecraft in 1961. The Vehicle (then-Vertical) Assembly Building is topped out in 1965. STS-1, launched two days earlier, lands safely at Edwards Air Force Base in 1981.
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<soundnfury> well that sucks, I'm getting an NRE when I try to decouple the Mercury nose cap. (Probably because my FASA is old.)
<soundnfury> fortunately I was able to "decouple" it with Object Thrower / Whack-A-Kerbal
<soundnfury> (so Dmitry will not die today)
<schnobs> NRE: Neal Ready to Eat?
<soundnfury> Not Readily Explicable?
<Theysen> Whack-A-Kerbal usage, so kerbal
<soundnfury> Theysen: it's often a very effective way to, uh, "repair" a malfunctioning ship
<Theysen> my success rate with that thing is negative
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<JeeF> Anyone can explain why no matter what I cannot get this ramjet engine to give me powerrrrrrrrr
<JeeF> have tons of intakes in this craft
<JeeF> says thrust 700kn @mach 2 in the description, and I'm at mach 2.4 there
<Rokker> JeeF: I don't think they work in RO, I've never gotten them working
<stratochief|vacation> lol, it has an alternator, so I wouldn't expect it to be RO configured
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<soundnfury> there, launched sat #6 of 6. the Three Hour Constellation is now complete.
<Qboid> [#6] title: Lots of updates to AIES, KW, and NP2 RealEngine configs | Please see commits for details... | https://github.com/KSP-RO/RealismOverhaul/issues/6
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<stratochief|vacation> soundnfury: geostationary? I assume you play on Linux?
<egg|zzz|egg> stratochief|vacation: have you seen maccollo's polygonal orbits
<stratochief|vacation> man, I really like rsparkyc's idea of contracts that gradually become more tight in tolerences. shame that ContractConfigurator isn't particularly easy to use
<stratochief|vacation> egg|zzz|egg: I don't think so, no.
<stratochief|vacation> also egg|zzz|egg, my number 1 KSPriority when I get back is to install Principia, at least on a stock install, or get my space-legs again and learn the new features
<egg|zzz|egg> stratochief|vacation: you should lurk in #principia, maccollo links fun stuff there :-p
<BadRocketsCo> greetings
<stratochief|vacation> egg|zzz|egg: wow, pretty orbits
<stratochief|vacation> o/ BadRocketsCo
<BadRocketsCo> can you link me to the golden spreadsheet again please?
<BadRocketsCo> forgot to save it
<stratochief|vacation> BadRocketsCo: it is in RP-0 issues, go fetch
<BadRocketsCo> ah
<Theysen> when is available on ckan plz?? /s
<stratochief|vacation> hmm. so I've been pushed out of continental europe as the UK, but I'm doing well on the waves. and I also got italy out of africa. time to look up some history and figure out how best to harass the axis
<BadRocketsCo> stratochief|vacation: found it, thanks!
<soundnfury> stratochief|vacation: not geo, no. 10770.5s period, Cape inclination.
<stratochief|vacation> Theysen: we're not terribly far away, and some work has been done in the last month that should make that easier. current domino is "when FAR is released", then other dominos can start falling fairly quickly
<soundnfury> stratochief|vacation: (and yup, Linux all the way)
<stratochief|vacation> Theysen: so, your FAR testing and feedback was and is immensely helpful. although it seems ferram4 named and tackled some serious FAR problems in the past 24-48 hours, which is awesome
<stratochief|vacation> soundnfury: nice! I've never had good luck putting satelites into well spaced orbits like that
<BadRocketsCo> hmmm
<BadRocketsCo> interesting
<BadRocketsCo> some of the engines that used to be configured no longer are
<Theysen> stratochief|vacation, yeah works fine so far
<Theysen> like, BadRocketsCo ?
<soundnfury> stratochief|vacation: I had to write a tool to figure out where I wanted to put them https://github.com/ec429/constellation
<soundnfury> (that's what that second image is from)
<stratochief|vacation> Theysen: did you try with SSTU? apparently SSTU has some long standing issues with FAR?
<BadRocketsCo> Theysen: I will do a list soon
<soundnfury> and of course I had konrad to help me get the LANs spot on
<Theysen> all fixed stratochief|vacation :)
<stratochief|vacation> soundnfury: ahh. very cool.
<BadRocketsCo> anyone have had the problem?
<Theysen> BadRocketsCo, RP-0 or RO?
<stratochief|vacation> Theysen: you should mention that on the SSTU thread, I skimmed it earlier today since ShadowMage tagged my name like 2-3 weeks ago
<BadRocketsCo> RP-0 but some of the engines aren�t even configured for RO, too
<Theysen> you have a tree ?
<Theysen> tree.cfg
<soundnfury> (as in, they're all within 0.01° of LAN. Shame I couldn't get the MAAEs as precise, but I don't have a konrad readout for those yet)
<Theysen> stratochief|vacation, yup once FAR releases I'd do it
<stratochief|vacation> Theysen: :)
<stratochief|vacation> Theysen: so, done finals or something? you've been quiet or gone for a while, and now you seem pretty active
<Theysen> stratochief|vacation, yeah grind time of the year, pretty fed up and general interest lost in KSP and the likes, now days off over the easter days and the likes :)
<Theysen> too many likes lel
<Theysen> + hyped RO and visuals now work without further ado <3
<stratochief|vacation> Theysen: ahh. well, glad to see you around again. are you going for a lunar base, or station, or onwards to Mars?
<BadRocketsCo> Theysen yup
<Theysen> stratochief|vacation, after RP-0 testing yesterday and this morning I am now off in sandbox for my long time planned Mars Stuff
<Theysen> reevaluating all my launchers and updating with sstu stuff where applicable
<Theysen> BadRocketsCo, okay make a list. I had nothing missing for me so far!
<stratochief|vacation> Theysen: has SSTU updated any major segments recently? I recall ShadowMage saying he would be re-doing the lander parts soon-ish
<stratochief|vacation> JoseEduardo and I worked on configuring the old SSTU lander parts to be similar to Altair, although obviously that could be improved or refined
<Theysen> stratochief|vacation, not much I am aware of, station parts will be one major workload to configure for RO - if even ever - but his stuff is just beautiful to use. He said he would do it next yes!
<Theysen> he was close to quitting from what I heard a few weeks back XD
<BadRocketsCo> wait
<BadRocketsCo> Is there a tree.cfg for RO, too?
<Theysen> Nop
<BadRocketsCo> or something like that?
<BadRocketsCo> is there anything I am suppost to do with the RO folder?
<Theysen> You need GameData/RealismOverhaul out of the github repo
<stratochief|vacation> Theysen: well, mod makers who burn out a bit, then take a break and come back recharged are ideal
<Theysen> stratochief|vacation, nah he raged at the paid expansion :D
<stratochief|vacation> I think SM has done that once or twice before
<stratochief|vacation> Theysen: ahh. well. perhaps people should throw a euro or two his way so he isn't so sad :P
<Theysen> considered that already and will definitely do that at some point in the future
<stratochief|vacation> I don't understand rage at an expansion, but to each their own. hell, I might get the expansion free, since I'm an early adopter
<Theysen> I won't bother tbh
<stratochief|vacation> Theysen: even small amounts are good. IMO, 2 euro now and 5 euro "at a later date" is >> planning to give 10 euro at a future undefined date
<Theysen> even if it's something some part mods do a thousand times better for my personal needs - I also purchased Cities skylines expansions I barely use
<Theysen> yes, that's nice
<Theysen> he had paypal set up r8?
<Theysen> I still need to get him to do ESA stuff first though :P :D
<stratochief|vacation> yep, at the very very bottom of his OP, because modders undercut themselves like that :P
<Theysen> I have a slight feeling KSP "cooled" down a little
<Theysen> or I just miss the drama threads and people are still special :)
<stratochief|vacation> well, best way to think about a donation to a mod or site you enjoy is as "appreciation for past enjoyment", not as a downpayment on a future thing that it may do
<Theysen> yeah that was a joke :)
<BadRocketsCo> Theysen: yeah I have done that
<stratochief|vacation> KSP is probably past peak, but I expect it will still be a sizable and active community for at least another year or more.
<Theysen> BadRocketsCo, I can confirm everything is there which was in 1.1.3
<Theysen> the Expansion will help that
<stratochief|vacation> squad didn't help that by hiring a bunch of modders, thus earning goodwill, then paying/treating them sufficiently poorly that they left enmasse
<BadRocketsCo> strange
<stratochief|vacation> BadRocketsCo: did you compile a new tree, or borrow from a previous release? different routes will get you different results
<BadRocketsCo> stratochief|vacation: borrowed from an eariler version.
<Theysen> stratochief|vacation, any word of Nathan in the past weeks here? I missed everything tbf
<BadRocketsCo> Theysen: he went to a trip or something like that
<stratochief|vacation> Theysen: he was in hawaii for a while. he may show up this weekend on IRC would be my guess
<Theysen> oh nice :)
<stratochief|vacation> hell, NK has been doing some lurking during the past few weeks. but he is west coast now, so you can probably get him talking if you're around 14-16 hours from now, midnight-ish westcoast time, assuming he is here
<stratochief|vacation> too late for my blood
<BadRocketsCo> stratochief|vacation: is there anything extra I should do with that tree.cfg?
<Theysen> did he move to west coast? Or part of the trip `
<Theysen> BadRocketsCo, to be fair, engines should be configured by RO, except the few RP-0 delivers
<stratochief|vacation> BadRocketsCo: read NK's 'How to ask for help' post on the forum, make a post, link that so we know more about your specifics. I could guess more, but honestly I don't know didly about your current setup, or which parts you're talking about
<BadRocketsCo> roger doger
<stratochief|vacation> Theysen: moved to pacific north west, new jorb
<Theysen> stratochief|vacation, alrighty. 11 in the evening west coast time is 8am for me. That's fine :D
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn NathanKell|AWAY
<egg|zzz|egg> !channel -serious:false
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn NathanKell|AWAY
<egg|zzz|egg> wat
<stratochief|vacation> !wpn egg|zzz|egg
<egg|zzz|egg> Thomas: though somehow I don't know how to enable wpn even here :-p
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<Thomas> did a mono update
<taniwha> "The patent on S3 Texture Compression expires on October 2, 2017." \o/
<taniwha> er...
<taniwha> meant for modding
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