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<Solar_Oracle>
Am I the only one bothered with the validity of the premise behind Stowaway?
<Solar_Oracle>
To paraphrase a veteran spaceflight officer, did IQs drop sharply in the future?
* raptop
wonders if I should get one of those streaming video services
<Solar_Oracle>
Netflix has nu Lost in Space with the totally-not-a-geth Robot. Amazon has The Expanse. Disney+ has Baby Yoda.
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<Solar_Oracle>
Really, though, contingencies are pretty much an ironclad requirement in interplanetary missions and insufficient oxygen just sounds kind of silly. I mean, does oxygen recycling technology just not advance at all?
<raptop>
I'm going to vaguely assume the sorts of corner cutting and maintainance reductions that cause various engineering disasters
<Solar_Oracle>
So like Voskhod?
<Solar_Oracle>
And how exactly does one stowaway on a mission to Mars?
* raptop
is aware of people stowing away in aircraft wheel wells, though that tends to go poorly
<Solar_Oracle>
"Shortly after takeoff, Barnett discovers launch support engineer Michael Adams, an accidental stowaway. The crew begins to bond with him, but Barnett soon learns that Michael inadvertently destroyed the CDRA, a device which scrubs carbon dioxide from the air on the ship."
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<Solar_Oracle>
So they wrecked it enough they can't fix it? What on Kerbin did they do? Convert it into a pinball machine?
* raptop
would have to watch it to answer
<Solar_Oracle>
I think I would spend too much time yelling at the TV.
<raptop>
hah
<Solar_Oracle>
Like with Gravity.
<Solar_Oracle>
The actual stowaway part is really bothering me now. How did they not notice that during launch or, you know, before.
<raptop>
"Corporate says that doing a full inspection is a waste, we can knock 30 minutes off of prep time if we just walk in and launch"
<raptop>
At least that's my assumption
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<Solar_Oracle>
The Kerbal way of range safety.
<Solar_Oracle>
Spaceflight isn't really forgiving to the kinds of structural errors needed for Stowaway to work.
<Solar_Oracle>
And if that's meant to be a ship intended to rendezvous with a Cycler on a perpetual Mars transfer orbit, the extra 70 kilograms or so are definitely going to be noticed.
<raptop>
ah, using the wrong resources mod would definitely cause problems!
<Solar_Oracle>
Now if they were using the original Kethane mod, they could've just chucked the stowaway in the KE-WAITNONOSTOP-01 and was their hands of the matter in fresh kethane.
<Solar_Oracle>
Interestingly, the setup uses an off-axis electric propulsion system, where I seem to think most tether spun spaceships use center-mounted motors or do not use propulsion at all when under spin.
<raptop>
But then, their niche is one that might not actually happen
<Althego>
o'neill cylinders?
<raptop>
aldrin cyclers and the like, per what Solar_Oracle was talking about
<Althego>
ah cycler, not cylinder
<raptop>
That whole thing where you want to massively reuse some piece of orbital infrastructure to move a bunch of people with highish launch costs (though presumably good recycling so consumables aren't too much of an issue)
<Althego>
when curiosity landed, they even used the com offset weights after ejected. they hit mars and colelcted some surface science from that
<raptop>
:D
<raptop>
I expect that flying over stuff with those instruments can yield a lot
<Althego>
i would expect the color camera to be used for mapping terrain ahead of the rover. resolution is low for things far away, so it can just go there first
<Althego>
that alone would boost planning
<Althego>
the battery i removed from the s7 is completely puffed up now. too bad i didnt make a timelapse
<Althego>
not safe to keep in the house anymore
<Althego>
maybe i just need to poke it out so it bursts in fire when i can watch it
<raptop>
forbidden pillow
<Althego>
this was underwhelming. nothing happened
<Althego>
i leave it out there for now
<Althego>
what, 3 launches in the next 24 hours? and maybe starship too?
<Mat2ch>
oh, loosing the database would be horrible (and somehow very funny :P )
<Guest79212>
DB went into orbit uh cloud
<Mat2ch>
and the cloud went up in smoke.
<Mat2ch>
I hope they didn't store the data in the OVH computing center :D
<Althego>
remember the datacenter fire some time ago?
<Guest79212>
😂
<Althego>
no they didnt, because it would have died long time ago
<Guest79212>
Yeah i Just thought about it
<Guest79212>
Was in france
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<Althego>
wait, did i forget about tinfoil tuesday?
<Mat2ch>
yes
<darsie>
Tinfoil is a scam. It's all aluminium foil.
<Althego>
yes, only english speaking people call it like that
<Althego>
i call it alufólia
<darsie>
Alufolie
<darsie>
Zinnfolie
<Mat2ch>
Exactly
<Althego>
it is in the name what it is made of
<darsie>
Very old ppl might say Stanniolpapier.
<Althego>
similar to pencil lead
<darsie>
Many ppl still say atom instead of tom.
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<Althego>
which is also not lead, but lead for english speaking people
<Althego>
hehe
<darsie>
Bleistift
<Althego>
so germans too
<darsie>
Im Bleistift ist eine Mine.
<darsie>
Im Bleistift ist eine Mine aus Graphit.
<darsie>
graphein means to write.
<Althego>
heh there are already rumor about zen 5. not even zen 4 is more than a trickle of information, possibly a year away, and i doubt anything about zen 5 is real
<darsie>
zen?
<Althego>
amd architecture
<darsie>
.
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<Deddly>
OK so the reason why the video of the helicopter was low framerate is because Perseverance doesn't have a video camera. It was taking still images in burst mode. Interesting
<Althego>
i was hoping for a few pictures and they made a video, i quite happy with the low framerate too
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<Deddly>
Yeah, amazing all round really. Can't believe they're not going to keep it and use it for scouting on this mission
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