<Althego>
i wonder, can i delete hzd and keep all the saves. because i dont plan to play it for a while and it is 100 gigs or so
<JVFoxy>
I just wanted to test flight the lander up into orbit.. really not sure if I'm going to use it though. I have another ship to push it out there
<JVFoxy>
100gigs.. ouch
<Althego>
what is left is the new game + mode, so basically a replay
<JVFoxy>
heard about the game a little.. but was a while back
<JVFoxy>
not sure was my sorta thing though. (not that I could play it on pc setup as it is anyways)
<Althego>
ok i clicked keep saves, and if it didnt that doesnt matter either
<JVFoxy>
spent a lot of time/energy in the game I take it?
<Althego>
maybe two week
<Althego>
s
<Althego>
but i have to complete all side quests
<Althego>
even i am not crazy to collect everything. huge world and lot of tiny pieces of lre i didnt collect
<Althego>
but i collected all the collectible items for side quests
<JVFoxy>
lol.. naming the lander 'Igloo'
<JVFoxy>
cuz its gotta land on minmus so..
<Althego>
how is that related to minmus?
<Althego>
maybe lander for eeloo and shaped like a dome
<JVFoxy>
Althego ah.. you more a casual gamer or take gaming more serious?
<Althego>
i spent years playing only ksp
<Althego>
but after maybe five years i am more like a casual
<Althego>
so for the last two years
<JVFoxy>
don't know.. guess Minmus makes me think mint ice cream? I'm having a hard time picking names for things these days. I was thinking some synonym for outpost or something, then started searching in other languages
<Althego>
i cant name them, so i name them based on function
<JVFoxy>
KSP is like literally the only game on my PC currently. I did get skyrim for the 360 (friend sorta donated the xbox to me when he moved back to North Ireland some years back)
<Althego>
so like tourist 1 and 2, mun 1 and 2, mun tourist 1 and 2, etc
<JVFoxy>
one of my first early landers I named 'Frog' or something.. I think even Spider was one
<JVFoxy>
I try to be a little creative with the names, give it some thought. I don't want to do anything too far out there. Granted, did name one plane made with a truss section for a body 'twig'.
<JVFoxy>
I think I kind of went through phases, as much as the game has, over the years. Being able to make things a little better helped also. Trying to come up with a name that either goes along with the function or 'personality' of the craft
<Althego>
i never had much creativity
<Althego>
but i enjoy the engineering aspect of the game
<JVFoxy>
but.. doesn't say if the same bug had also been bothering other people as well... I'm sure they may have collectively sighed as well. 'Finally, someone who fixed it!'
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<Althego>
next week unsounded finally starts updating again. also hopefully ingenuity makes its first flight
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<Althego>
zombanwa
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<JVFoxy>
They sure taking it really slow with setting up the little flier
<JVFoxy>
lol.. almost like they acting nervous about it actually flying? -shrug
<Althego>
yes, falt earthers are going to complain as there is not atmosphere oin mars the helicopter cant fly :)
<Althego>
oh wait they already did
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<JVFoxy>
I hadn't noticed... news did show a pic to do with a pile of socks over there
<JVFoxy>
april fools of course
<JVFoxy>
eh well.. sleeps
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<flayer>
i just need 300 science to unlock the parts for the big orange tank, then i can fly to jool once i get this craft and its habitation/snacks/fuel supply counterpart into orbit
<Althego>
i really hop the issue is not with the flip of starship. causing unsolvable sloshing making it impossible. because that would be a huge setback
<Althego>
in the beginning the header tanks are full, but in a a second there is already some possibility to for sloshing
<flayer>
"When considering the antenna power of your vessel, direct antennae and relay antennae combine to give you a 'Power' to calculate signal strength back to the KSC, however, if a different vessel is connecting through you to communicate with the KSC the direct Antennae are disregarded in any calculations made."
<flayer>
That last bit seems to indicate I need a relay antenna powerful enough to reach both the probe and Kerbin.
<Althego>
but in most practical cases the relay is strong enough
<flayer>
yeah, but that means i can't just a small deployable relay and a large deployable direct antenna
<flayer>
as i was intending on using
<Althego>
say hg-5 whic is the smallest and you are in low orbit with the relay sat in few hundred km altitiude, you can reach everything
<Althego>
that is how my orbital relays work
<flayer>
you can't use the comm 88-88 to amplify the hg-5 relay though
<Althego>
yes
<Althego>
but the hg-5 is not really good between eve and kerbin
<flayer>
yeah, especially if playing at 50% comm strength like i am
<flayer>
but its okay, the hg-5's will reach my massive jool relay consisting of 12 RA-15s
<Althego>
unless it is behind the planet :)
<flayer>
yeah, but the sat can still function as an additional relay for jool
<flayer>
after i use it to survey all the moons
<flayer>
i'm going to use the shuttle to deliver it to a polar orbit around jool
<flayer>
this is all a few months from now
<flayer>
i'm bringing upward of 20,000 snacks for what I think will be a 3 man crew
<flayer>
about 10,000 liquid fuel
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<raptop>
...GoG offered me a free game (Steel Rats) because I recieve their marketing emails sometimes o_O
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<Solar_Oracle>
What does this mean? "MechJeb module MechJebModuleMenu threw an exception in OnDestroy" ?
<umaxtu>
its a programming issue with mechjeb it looks like
<Solar_Oracle>
I'm trying to understand the conflict it's having with ClickThroughDeblocker, and that's the clearest thing I'm getting in the crash log.
<Solar_Oracle>
Well this is just plane/plain silly. Now it's not conflicting that I've reduced my mods to MechJeb 2, ClickThroughDeblocker and its dependencies.
<Solar_Oracle>
Now begins the laborious task of checking what other mod may be causing the conflict.
<umaxtu>
thats always fun
<umaxtu>
sorry that I couldn't be more help
<Solar_Oracle>
It's not your problem. Blame the Kraken.
<Solar_Oracle>
Found it! It was StageRecovery, which is also the only mod I had with a ClickThroughDeblocker dependency.
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<Solar_Oracle>
And now I fixed StageRecovery: It was missing a brand new dependency that CKAN wasn't aware of.
<umaxtu>
what was it?
<Solar_Oracle>
SpaceTuxLibrary
<umaxtu>
thx
<Solar_Oracle>
Time to celebrate, AK-4- Er, SNACKS for everybody!
<Solar_Oracle>
Now, finally, I can play KSP again the way it was meant to be played. With dozens of mods.
<umaxtu>
weird. I seem to have had it already installed
<Solar_Oracle>
I'm guessing my problem stems from my tried-and-true method of manually installing from dozens of .zip files.
<umaxtu>
fun times
<Solar_Oracle>
I've yet to move out of the Dark Ages of the 90's and into the 21st Century. I'm still using Netscape Navigator.
<umaxtu>
eh, somethings from the 90s are still going strong. emacs for example
<Solar_Oracle>
And, allegedly, IRC.
<umaxtu>
Vim too, though neovim seems to be supplanting it
<Solar_Oracle>
Honestly, that IRC is still around is legit surprising.
<Solar_Oracle>
Though maybe everyone using IRC is, like, in their 90s and simply don't know how to Discord.
<umaxtu>
eh, its simple, easy to implement, client agnostic, and uses very little resources
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<Solar_Oracle>
Discord is like a mini-web browser, too.
<FLHerne>
Yeah, if there was a decent open-source client for Discord I'd be very tempted
<FLHerne>
But there isn't, so I'm not
<Solar_Oracle>
In retrospect, given how popular Reddit is despite being more primitive than old message board systems, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised IRC is around.
<umaxtu>
also a tree view for the servers and channels would be nice. so I don't have to use multiple clicks to get to the channels I want
<Solar_Oracle>
Alright, I thank you for allowing me to occupy your valuable IRC idling time!
<umaxtu>
no problem
<Solar_Oracle>
I'm going to return to KSP and, probably, just end up caving in and getting the Elite Odyssey alpha.
<umaxtu>
idk if my 980 will be able to handle that. it already struggled with planetary surfaces in horizons
<Solar_Oracle>
Wait, GTX 980?
<Solar_Oracle>
Can that even run Solitaire?
<umaxtu>
lol
<Solar_Oracle>
I'd think you'd need an upgrade, honestly, given that the settlements and the FPS parts will have a lot more clutter.
<Solar_Oracle>
Lots more textures and lots more triangles.
<raptop>
I mean, at this point you can run a mid-sized IRC server on a potato
<umaxtu>
for that I need, a) income and b) to find a gpu in stock at a reasonable price
<Solar_Oracle>
Yeah, its probably going to be a while before GPUs go back down in price.
<Solar_Oracle>
Might I recommend simply blowing bases up with missiles and artillery to reduce the frame rate inhibiting assets?
<umaxtu>
lol
<Solar_Oracle>
The RTX 2060, which is what I have now, is literally five times pricier than when I got it last year.
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<Solar_Oracle>
You could always play Elite 1984 in the meantime.
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<packbart>
on Usenet, IRC is still seen as that new-fangled fast-paced chatty toy that nobody needs ;)
<Alanonzander>
lol
<Alanonzander>
IRC has outlived, so far, every other form of realtime chat.
<flayer>
nice, my jool mission has 1% comm signal at maximum distance from kerbin
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<Althego>
video card availability is a joke
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<Althego>
980, that is just one generation older than the 1070 i have
<umaxtu>
launched in '14 IIRC?
<packbart>
I buy new graphics about every 10 years
<packbart>
the 2080S I bought last year will serve me for a long time to come, I hope
<Althego>
one of the worst value cards in retrospect
<umaxtu>
gsync does make the lower fps more bearable so long as it stays above 40
<packbart>
I don't have a display with gsync, anyway
<umaxtu>
its worth it. nvidia gpus 10 series and newer usually will work with freesync as well I believe
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<packbart>
I just use "vsync". the display does 75fps which is an odd number, though
<packbart>
"The Bill Nighy of space gamers" hurr (about Scott Manley playing Elite Dangerous)
<packbart>
oh, it's on sale. I might yet buy it
<minas_tirith>
Hi packbart
<umaxtu>
packbart, Elite?
<packbart>
hello capital city of Gondor
<Althego>
delacy alpha lima tango, welcome to this federal facility