<Althego>
did anybody watch the real time vostok 1 with scott?
<sandbox>
he has a time machine?
<Althego>
it was some game with some other space youtubers i think
<darsie>
4 and 20 is a ghost busters reference?
<Althego>
no
<Althego>
the dont cross the streams is
<darsie>
k. I don't get it.
<darsie>
My flat mate has a time machine on her Mac.
<minas_tirith>
Hi darsie
<darsie>
hi minas_tirith
<sandbox>
blackbirds?
<flayer>
/me licks minas_tirith
<darsie>
The capital of Gondor, Minas Tirith (Sindarin: "the Tower of Guard"[2]), lay at the eastern end of the White Mountains, built around a shoulder of Mount Mindolluin.
<darsie>
But we can't call them negatrons if their charge is positive. We'd have to flip positrons and negatrons.
<Althego>
i see no problem with that
<darsie>
I do :)
<darsie>
Reuse of a related term.
<Althego>
nega-kyn and posi-chan :)
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<Althego>
*kun
<darsie>
That's why the grave is so handy.
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<darsie>
We could also consistently use the g. And consequently Mg, Gg, ...
<darsie>
Most importantly, make it the base unit. That would redefine most SI units, though.
<darsie>
With the G all would stay the same.
<Althego>
that iswhy problem, whatever the mass base unit is, it shouldnt have a prefix
<darsie>
ofc we redefine 1 G as 1 kg.
<darsie>
I think it's still stuck as some amount of water currently.
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<UmbralRaptor>
The kg switched from being s chunk of some platinum-iridium alloy to being related to Planck's constant a year or two ago
<minas_tirith>
UmbralRaptor, units are tough
<darsie>
Since the official redefinition?
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<UmbralRaptop>
yeah
<darsie>
2019: The kilogram is currently redefined in terms of the Planck constant as approved by the General Conference on Weights and Measures (CGPM) on 16 November 2018.
<minas_tirith>
resistance has such a complicated formulation in terms of fundamental units
<Althego>
there were at least two competing methods
<Althego>
a completely smooth silicon sphere with only one isotope, and watt balance
<darsie>
Previously they also tried to "count" gold atoms.
<minas_tirith>
darsie, how many people did it take to count to a kilogram?
<Althego>
lol
<darsie>
They actually integrated the current of a gold ion stream.
<darsie>
And I guess they would have 'counted' to less than 1 kg practically.
<minas_tirith>
Oh ok
<minas_tirith>
How did they count so fast?
<minas_tirith>
They must have really sharp eyes
<Althego>
hehe there is the joke about the shepherd. how many sheep are there? 218 replies the shepherd instantly. how did you count it so fast? i counted the number of les and divided by 4
<Althego>
*legs
<darsie>
:)
<darsie>
What if the result was not an integer?
<Althego>
hard to say. can actually happen
<darsie>
There's a guy with 0.03 legs.
<minas_tirith>
Althego, how do you calculate 100! quickly?
<minas_tirith>
You compute 99! and multiply it by 100
<Althego>
dont go recursive on me
<darsie>
0, 1, 10, 11, 100
<Althego>
hehe
<minas_tirith>
(factorial)
<darsie>
:)
<Althego>
still can choose to use binary
<Althego>
and in that case you can have it fast
<minas_tirith>
Ok
<minas_tirith>
How do you calculate the sqrt(9) quickly?
<minas_tirith>
You compute sqrt(3) then multiply it by itself
<minas_tirith>
Yes thats the algebra I was thinking about
<minas_tirith>
It deals a lot with the deep aspects of multiplication
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<Althego>
how do you call a group of kerbals? (like flock of wbirds, murder of crows, pride of lions, etc)
<Althego>
did i ask this already?
<raptop>
An incident of kerbals
<Althego>
hehe
<Althego>
hehe, the national team moon lander. very tall with a long ladder. bades on playing ksp it has two major flaws. going to flip on landing. then the kerbal is going to slip on the ladder and fall down
<Althego>
just like in the ksp2 trailer
<umaxtu>
More importantly though, they played the politics well
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<Mat2ch>
Althego: I would agree, but the heavy parts are on the bottom so it has a very low CoM which makes it unlikely to flip.
<Althego>
not as low as the dynetics lander
<Althego>
that loks exactly like something i would build for kerbals
<Althego>
and the spacex is of course just its own category
<Althego>
it has its own landing engines
<Althego>
still lands vertically
<Althego>
nice if you have a landing pads, otherwise sounds bad
<Mat2ch>
depends on the length of the landing legs
<Althego>
i feel the lunar starship is an afterthought
<Althego>
elon wants to go to mars
<Althego>
moon is not really a goal
<Althego>
but they may do it if nasa pays them
<minas_tirith>
Starship is delusional
<Althego>
halu :)
<minas_tirith>
NASA will pick up the samples long before mars starship does anything of note
<Althego>
i think the reverse
<Althego>
there is not even a name for the sample return craft
<Althego>
and supposedly eu
<Althego>
so it is going to take at least adecade
<minas_tirith>
Just slapping a name onto a delusion doesn't make it any more real
<Althego>
yes
<Althego>
but it means that they dont have the faintest idea yet
<Althego>
no plannig has started
<Althego>
and actually two missions
<Althego>
one lands, collects and launches it into orbit
<Althego>
and an other finds it in orbit and takes it back to earth
<Althego>
with the usual speed this is at least 15 years
<minas_tirith>
Althego, NASA has lots of smart people
<minas_tirith>
Althego, it is also important not to spread our infections
<Althego>
which never happened
<Althego>
also backcontamination
<Althego>
safest would be to land the martian samples on the moon
<raptop>
Speaking of infections, apparently the US on the whole is stopping the J&J vaccine rollout?
<minas_tirith>
Althego, human beings are full to the neck with viruses and bacteria
<minas_tirith>
We should not spread our viruses on the red planet
<Althego>
life is already a big infection
<Althego>
viruses cant spread without a host
<Althego>
bacteria might live there
<Althego>
of course bacteriphages would go with them
<minas_tirith>
Althego, we have to protect the martians from our diseases
<raptop>
planetary protection, etc
<raptop>
though conveniently, the martian surface is quite hostile to earth life
<Althego>
or to any life
<Althego>
but if mars ever had life, i think there is still some underground
<Althego>
even on earth there are tons of bacteria livingdeep underground
<minas_tirith>
Althego, sandworms
<Althego>
we couldnt wipe them out even if we tried
<Althego>
thy are quite safe there
<Althego>
just as they would be on mars
<Althego>
the jj thing seems to be similar to the astrazeneca, very rare cases, but somehow still seem to be linked to the vaccine
<minas_tirith>
Althego, how would we talk to the Martians?
<Althego>
cant talk to bacteria
<Althego>
ok, you can but pointless
<minas_tirith>
Bacterium are a hardy peoples
<Mat2ch>
raptop: yes, for the same reason AstraZeneca was stopped (or is only given to people over 60 here)
<minas_tirith>
Yeah nobody really needs vaccines, only old and vulnerable people
<Mat2ch>
raptop: minimal risc of blood clot
<Mat2ch>
we have mostly BioNTech here
<Mat2ch>
so
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<Althego>
biontech sounds like some evil corporation in some scifi horror game :)
<Althego>
like gentek in prototype
<Althego>
but about aliens. you also dont talk. they may not even have hearing. or use completely different frequencies. or use electromagnetic waves for communication
<minas_tirith>
Althego, then how will we determine means of communication
<Althego>
nobody knows
<umaxtu>
with a giant flying lightboard. duh
<Althego>
hehe like in close encoutners
<umaxtu>
I was thinking independence day
<Althego>
with nukes?
<umaxtu>
before that
<Althego>
i havent seen that in a long time. maybe there was some flying helicopter with some lightbulbs?
<umaxtu>
pretty sure there was
<raptop>
There was
<raptop>
It got shot down
<minas_tirith>
Hey raptop
<minas_tirith>
Would you swim with black alien octopodics in a green ocean?
<raptop>
Uh, I think I need some vaccines and a safety course for that
<minas_tirith>
raptop, (Solstheim)
<minas_tirith>
However the ocean seemed very corrosive to normal folks
<raptop>
If I'm the Nevarine, it should be fine
<minas_tirith>
raptop, in that game you are a dragonborn not the nerevarine
<minas_tirith>
however the main enemy is one of the past dbs I think
<raptop>
ah
* raptop
has not played Skyrim >_>
<minas_tirith>
raptop, did original Morrowind have Solstheim?
<raptop>
Sort of. The first release didn't, but the Bloodmoon expansion (which is included in any release since the GotY one in 2003) did
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<flayer>
i'm exhausted
* raptop
runs flayer through the scrubber, per EPA regulations
<flayer>
yikes
<raptop>
Have to be careful about those exhaust gases
* flayer
farts
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