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<awang> *phew*
<awang> Just finished a 23 hour flight
<awang> Who knew that low altitude had so much science laying around
<wb99999999> next time try that mod which add a bunch of real world airfield
<wb99999999> it may or may not make your life easier
<awang> I mean, technically KSCSwitcher itself would have worked fine
<awang> But hwere's the fun in that
<wb99999999> then maybe try an antipodal bomber
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<wb99999999> I feel like my own flying is improved after playing with PEG and looking at the program fly rockets
<wb99999999> it's weird
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<awang> wb99999999: Once I get the tech, definitely
<awang> And I woudln't call that weird
<awang> Learning from the master
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<awang> What version(s) of the X-1 had all-moving tailplanes?
<awang> Wikipedia mentions that all-moving tailplanes were added, but they don't appear to be present on the diagrams of either the X-1 or the X-1E
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<blowfish> huh, I can't seem to change the size of Real Chutes. Am I missing something obvious?
<blowfish> oh, prev/next size
<wb99999999> yeah it's VERY stealthy
<wb99999999> It took me like a year to notice the option
<wb99999999> any body know how's Lamont's PEG code going?
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<awang> Hmmm
<awang> The Wikipedia page for the Black Arrow:
<awang> "The oxidiser tanks were located below the fuel tanks, following the practice of putting the more dense propellent at bottom in order to lower the centre of gravity and make the rocket easier to control."
<awang> How accurate is this?
<awang> I always thought higher CoG is better
<awang> For stability, at least
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<blowfish> wb99999999: working, the last time I checked, not sure if there have been any recent changes
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<wb99999999> I dream of an universe where cryogens don't evaporate :P
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<wb99999999> why is the total amount of gravy lost decreases when you go "over" the apogee and pitch up to circularize?
<ferram4> Because gravity losses are only measured in terms of going up against gravity.
<ferram4> Consider that in an elliptical orbit, using that measurement you'd constantly exchange velocity between your velocity at periapsis and velocity at apoapsis + gravity losses from going up to apoapsis
<ProjectThoth> Would a rocket burning at terminal velocity suffer gravity losses?
<ProjectThoth> * falling
<wb99999999> which way are you trying to thrust?
<wb99999999> are you trying to go up or go side way or go down?
<wb99999999> gravy loss is only there because you're trying to go up in the first place
<wb99999999> I think an extreme case is hovering
<wb99999999> which you're losing velocity to the gravity at the maximum possible rate
<wb99999999> the other extreme is being in orbit, where you don't lose anything what ever you do (in the going up sense, that is)
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<Maxsimal> o/
<soundnfury> \o
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<soundnfury> orbit - 1st Aug 1953. A-6/2xAJ10-27/XASR-1.
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<Maxsimal> good job soundnfury :)
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<Rokker> Bornholio_: >not using a free opportunity to test out the election cockpit
<Rokker> ejection*
<Bornholio_> oh well, airframe mostly recovered :P
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<Rokker> Bornholio: I'm very unhappy with the lack of video of an F-111 ejection
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<Bornholio> well at least the tested it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8l79lSjVMg
<Bornholio> I was surprised they didn't foam the landing strip
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<Sigma88> you know, if someone reads only that last line it could be misinterpreted
<Bornholio> happy to be misinterpreted, lubrication is important, but remember always use a water based lube :P
<Bornholio> I mean that landing was so rough puffs of fire came out
<ProjectThoth> What's the mechanics behind Soyuz's six-hour rendezvous?
<ProjectThoth> I'm assuming it's probably not as simple as calculating the phase angle between a low and high orbit, and then backtracking by the approximate ascent time.
<ProjectThoth> (ascent time of the interceptor, that is, and taking into account Earth's rotation)
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<wb99999999> cheese
<Bornholio> parmesan
<Bornholio> taniwha are you about and able to give a .mu model lesson?
<blowfish> hmm, anyone have an idea why my chutes are trying to deploy when staged and not just arm?
<Bornholio> realchute setting .arm on staging?
<Bornholio> or not setting pressure or altitude low enough
<blowfish> it's probably the first one, thanks
* blowfish wonders why that's not the default
<Bornholio> the change to 5km altitude pap made was awesome, 30k was useless
<wb99999999> Born did it ever happened to you when MJ launch you into very strange orbit when you ask it to launch into the same plane with another object?
<Bornholio> yes
<Bornholio> i've had it send me into an opposite -x inclination quite often, and launch to plane/rend. has been very likely to fail in the past. But lately using Lamonts i've had good luck
<wb99999999> which build in particular?
<wb99999999> given he improved this I am pretty confident that it was he who fixed the wasted ignition thing as well
<Bornholio> 16 last i checked
<Bornholio> peg let me link
<wb99999999> I think I'm using either this or the newer 17
<wb99999999> guess I'm not as lucky
<wb99999999> k, try this
<wb99999999> try to launch to the plane of the Moon from Wenchang, China (19.6 deg latitude)
<wb99999999> and see what MJ does
<Bornholio> you'll have to give me a bit, not loaded, probably gonna build a new cache if i do :P
<wb99999999> a bit of...?
<Bornholio> time
<wb99999999> oh
<wb99999999> take your time as long as you will
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<Bornholio> crap don't have switcher on... it'll have to wait till after dinner :P
<wb99999999> take your time :P
<wb99999999> it really is nothing to be hurried about
<wb99999999> the latitude somehow confuses MJ to the point that it forgets about waiting for the proper launch window...
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<Bornholio> for some reason switcher isn't working for me
<wb99999999> this is uncommon
<wb99999999> switcher is not a mod that's known to fail a lot
<wb99999999> actually I've never had or heard about it failing until now
<Bornholio> launch to plane was within a couple hundred dV from Cape, to moon
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<wb99999999> yes, cape usually don't have any problem
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<wb99999999> but maybe try Wenchang or French Guiana
<wb99999999> and MJ gets very confused
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