Althego changed the topic of #KSPOfficial to: Kerbal Space Program official channel | versions: KSP1 1.11.1 | Rules: tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | "modcall" to call ops | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | Apparently SpaceX can do both a successful landing *and* a RUD
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<raptop>
Althego: Apparently teaching sharks german is surprisingly difficult?
<Althego>
i would love to see this new station starting to grow on the iss
<Althego>
oh i forgot about event horizon. interesting, about planet 9 not existing. the two usual suspects think there is a few percent probability it doesnt exist. yet they didnt find it yet
* raptop
recalls seeing something on arχiv recently about how planet 9 is looking increasingly iffy
<Althego>
it would be nice if it existed. according to this guy they did some kind of bias analysis and it appears the apparent clustering may be a fluke
<raptop>
Too bad, it would be nice for the nearest super earth/mini neptune to be a few hundred to few thousand au out instead of a quarter million
<raptop>
(prox cen c)
<Althego>
still almost unreachable
<Althego>
it would take what, a decade to reach it (maybe 2, 3?), only for a flyby
<raptop>
something like that, though compare with New Horizons (launch + 8 years for the Pluto flyby, launch + 13 years for Arrokoth flyby)
* raptop
wonders how serious the ideas of sending a mission to the sun's gravity focus (550 au) are
<Althego>
would be a nice telescope
<raptop>
indeed
<Althego>
but there was an other idea, to use the refraction in the atmosphere of earth as a lense
<Althego>
that is probably easier to do, although it needs more computation
* raptop
recalls seeing some height listing for hololive-EN and being confused at how short they all were
<Ariri>
The video montage of all of them has their heights I think too, Uriffereta or some song; some like Kaichou are giants in comparison
<Ariri>
Fukkireta?
<raptop>
Ariri: oh, right. Okayu's birthday is on cat day, which feels intentional
<Ariri>
Haha, nice. Their idol birthdays are probably based on something rather than being completely random, so it's likely
<Althego>
hehe they are mostly around 1.5 m. quite short
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<Althego>
hah found flat earth
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<UmbralRaptop>
low roughness earth
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<Althego>
at this point ftfe single handedly keeps the flat earth alive, just to make us laugh
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<flayer>
so, my solution for the solar station is to basically ensure i have a kerbin encounter every year or so
<flayer>
that way i can easily resupply/rotate crews and i'll make sure i won't drift from near kerbin solar orbit
<Althego>
doesnt that change the orbit every time?
<flayer>
yeah, i'm expending fuel to make it happen each time
<flayer>
hmm
<flayer>
maybe i'll just go for 'close approach'
<flayer>
have a close approach of less than 100,000 km
<flayer>
i'll have to get practiced at finding an encounter with the station to supply/expand it
<JVFoxy>
big solar station?
<darsie>
flayer: If you do that, the station could always stay near Kerbin. Some inclination, at Ap be outside Kerbin oribt, then drift below Kerbin, then at Pe inside Kerbin, then drift above Kerbin. A kind of Kerbin orbit.
<JVFoxy>
sort of 'halo' orbit
<darsie>
And long term stable, if you set the orbit period to 1 year.
<darsie>
You'd only need slightly less than escape velocity to reach the station. Preferably while at Ap or Pe, can launch to East that way. Navigation across SOI sucks, though.
<darsie>
This sounds like an interesting thing to do. I might do it.
<JVFoxy>
you do'n RS? 1 year.. kerbal or 1 year real scale?
<JVFoxy>
:P
<darsie>
I currently have stock.
<darsie>
RS? RSS?
<darsie>
I tried RO/RSS/RP0/1, but at some point it was always too unstable to play :(.
<JVFoxy>
aw
<JVFoxy>
I've wondered about trying RP0.. but whats diff between RP0 and 1?
<JVFoxy>
RO/RSS is Realisim overhaul and Real Solar system right? Basically same thing?
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<darsie>
RP1 is just a newer version of RP0, I think.
<darsie>
RO and RSS complement each other. They're different things.
<darsie>
I think RSS is just the solar system, while RO is parts.
<darsie>
They pull in some other mod dependencies/recommendations.
<darsie>
Will KSP2 give us more control about planets, so we don't need to tilt the solar system to get Earth axial tilt?
<JVFoxy>
ah ok got ya
<JVFoxy>
lol.. human scale stuff in kerbin scale world. whoops
<JVFoxy>
I forgot.. RP0/1 adds parts right?
<umaxtu>
I'm not sure if the RP0/1 mod adds any parts on its own
<JVFoxy>
oh which one had the sounding rockets then?
<umaxtu>
no idea
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<JVFoxy>
oh.. mod in itself
<JVFoxy>
I remember someone doing a playthrough video with RP0/1 or whatever and had started with them
<darsie>
I think RP is the tech tree, but it might be more.
<umaxtu>
clearly the raptors still need a ton of work
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<Althego>
at leaast they caught a new failurem ode
<Althego>
and the tank pressurization is still not fully solved
<Althego>
next week starlink 20, 21
<FLHerne>
Let's hope the Starlink endless postponement curse was lifted with -17
<Althego>
negative 17
<darsie>
.tget 1368016384458858500
<darsie>
!tget 1368016384458858500
<Althego>
no
<Revelator>
Considered trying Starlink, but meh
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<Alanonzander>
Revelator: I'd love to try starlink, probably better than what I can gwet currently.
<Althego>
in the middle of nowhere it beats everything else
<Althego>
not much use here. not to mention there are buildings all around
<Alanonzander>
I'm still waiting (knowing it won't ever happen) for the 768Kb DSL AT&T promised me back in 2000
<Althego>
hehehehe
<Revelator>
xD
<umaxtu>
oof
<Alanonzander>
Charter (now Spectrum) said they would put in cable internet, if I footed the install bill (estimate was $50- 75K). I asked them if I would get exclusive access to that section, they said no. Told them if I footed the entire install bill, I woudl get exclusive access to it. Didn't go anywhere :(
<Althego>
kind of insane. pay for all of it, but then you dont get all of it
<Althego>
it is amusing how usa has such a bad and expensive internet
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<raptop>
As best I can tell, things make sense in mid sized cities and nowhere else
<raptop>
The large cities don't have anything better in terms of price/service (and are sometimes worse), and the rural areas, well...
<umaxtu>
I can get gigabit fiber where I live for $70/mo but its AT&T
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* raptop
wants to say that comcast has something similiarish on offer here, but given the problems that some of my fellow students have with comcast...
<umaxtu>
plus, I'm living with my parents, so its not my decision and you can't truly use your own router with AT&T's fiber
<Alanonzander>
Correct. AT&T uses very "propritary" hardware, just so you "have to" get it from them.
<Alanonzander>
I buy access to AT&T wholesale for work, then sell it to people. Worst part is I can't sell it to myself. I do keep checking to see if/when that will change.
<Alanonzander>
Get this... Get their "broadband" product (vDSL) and if you cancel it (say 6month a year) you have to get a new AT&T modem when you re-activate it.
<umaxtu>
there are some methods to dump the certs needed, but I'm sure AT&T wouldn't be happy if they caught me
<Alanonzander>
umaxtu: that would lbe a "breech of contract"
<Alanonzander>
so ues :{P
<Althego>
hehe kiara would have needed to pay around 400 eur for 80 mbit lol
<Althego>
(she just sead it)
<Althego>
said
<Alanonzander>
truing T-Mobile's 5G Home i nternet right now. It has issues.
* raptop
did do t-mobile tethering for everything for the first several months of the pandemci (that $50/mo plan that throttles to 3G)
<Alanonzander>
No throttle on the 5G Home Internet, No data cap.
<Alanonzander>
agreement says they "may throttle" if the load in the area is high.
* raptop
was absolutely getting annoyed texts from them when I went through more than ~80 GiB/mo though
<Alanonzander>
getting upwards of 50Mb/sec right now
<Alanonzander>
oh yes, and the "external" ip for http/https keeps changing. Makes for fun times on "secured sites" like online banking, or server management.