Althego changed the topic of #KSPOfficial to: Kerbal Space Program official channel | versions: KSP1 1.11.1 | Rules: tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | "modcall" to call ops | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | Apparently SpaceX can do both a successful landing *and* a RUD
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<JVFoxy>
uh so.. what to do with a ship in minmus orbit and 1900dv to spare...
<JVFoxy>
I wasn't actually planning to have that much DV left over, just.. things went better than expected
<raptop>
landing on a flat?
<JVFoxy>
thought about it... but it be on the terrier bell housing
<JVFoxy>
right now I'm getting low orbit crew eva observations..
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<JVFoxy>
wee.. eh well figured why not, touch down on one of hte flats
<JVFoxy>
oh ya.. derped. I could take surface samplse too
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<raptop>
I guess you could also hang out in munar orbit if you haven'
<raptop>
t already mined out all the science
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<darsie>
JVFoxy: The terrier probably can take 6 m/s impact or so. If you fall over on Minmus, maybe reaction wheels can get you up again. Or press F9.
<darsie>
If you want to be efficient, send a Kerbal on EVA to scout where there is a three biome meeting point.
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<JVFoxy>
I landed at 2m/s
<JVFoxy>
ugh.. seeing those biomes with the sunlight shining on things.. blind much?
<raptop>
Hope none of your kerbals have vampirism
<JVFoxy>
...
<JVFoxy>
surprised kerbals don't get chunky given all the snacks they keep talking about eating
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<JVFoxy>
whelp.. time to head home I guess
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<JVFoxy>
haaa....! 1297 science just from this minmus mission.. uh.. wow?
<darsie>
nice :)
<darsie>
gn
<darsie>
Minmus is where the science is.
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<raptop>
science tastes like mint
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<JVFoxy>
well.. consider it is easier to land there. But ugh.. 16 day trip there and back
<JVFoxy>
I could have spent a bit more time, landed on another flat basin but.. eh..
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<Althego>
looks more streamlined than the original
<Deddly>
That looks great!
<flayer>
yeah, the point is not to use whiplashes or rapiers or anything
<Deddly>
I think you could get more payload to orbit if you had less wing, but it does look good
<Althego>
wings are not heavy in ksp
<Deddly>
It's the drag that's the killer
<Althego>
and in that wings can help, if you can point your nose directly in the airstream, you have the least amount of drag
<Deddly>
It's a fine balance. But generally, less wing will help an SSTO as long as you can actually take off
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<Deddly>
At hypersonic speeds, Mk2 parts themselves provide excellent lift
<flayer>
it basically hopped off the runway by itself so i'm removing at least one set of swept wings
<Deddly>
This is especially important for a Panther-powered SSTO, since a lot of your burn in the upper atmosphere is going to be rocket powered anyway
<Althego>
i feel that to be so wasteful. it loses maybe 400 m/s delta v because of the panthers, and has to carry too much fuel
<Deddly>
It's a design challenge!
<Deddly>
It's fun!
<flayer>
i figure if i design this ship now
<flayer>
and get it to work decently
<flayer>
then later i can replace the panthers with rapiers and have tons more dv on an already efficient craft
<Deddly>
Exactly. I love taking an old craft and gradually upgrading it
<flayer>
also, i'm playing a career game without planetary multipliers for science
<Deddly>
Oooh
<Deddly>
Then making good low-tech craft is very important
<Althego>
that is an interesting decision. i always complain about too much science in kerbin soi
<flayer>
yeah, that is drastically reduced now
<flayer>
i've already done most of the mun and minmus, don't even have any 550 nodes unlocked
<flayer>
i think about 4 300 nodes are done
<TristenKSP>
._.
<Althego>
the gravioli detector is on an 550 node. and gives a large amount of science
<flayer>
its first on the list once i have the funds for tier 3 labs
<Izaya>
zen is newer than haswell and haswell is stronkest
<TristenKSP>
stronk
<TristenKSP>
strenkth
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<Althego>
stonks :)
<TristenKSP>
intelijenc
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<TristenKSP>
WHAT THE
<Althego>
the split
<Deddly>
Netsplit
<TristenKSP>
WHAT WAS THAT
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<TristenKSP>
WHAT'S A NETSPLIT
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<Izaya>
fr though what's the fastest processor I can get that uses DDR3? is it the 4790 I already have?
<Althego>
an irc network is build from several servers. and people are logged into different servers. but servers communicates
<Deddly>
TristenKSP, on IRC, sometimes a server gets split off
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<TristenKSP>
the server committed die?
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<Mat2ch>
was probably just restarted.
<Althego>
if the servers lose connections among each other the network can split into two halves. in that case servers generate quit messages on both sides for the people on the other servers
<TristenKSP>
oh
<Deddly>
TristenKSP, it just disconnected from the server we're on. It will be back :)
<TristenKSP>
oh
<raptop>
oh no
<Deddly>
So for them, it looks like WE all left
<Althego>
not another fire :)
<TristenKSP>
:')
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<Deddly>
TristenKSP, I've not seen you around before. Have you come from the forum?
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<TristenKSP>
I've been here awhile
<TristenKSP>
a few months at least
<Deddly>
Cool. So it's me who's been inattentive, sorry :)
<Althego>
sound
<TristenKSP>
sound
<Althego>
there was no image
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<Deddly>
LOL what was that? I had music playing at the same time
<Althego>
if it is completely reusable, doesnt matter
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<Deddly>
Only for testing purposes
<Althego>
maybe with nuclear rockets?
<Deddly>
Not for an actual serious mission
<Althego>
maybe it could put a single cubesat into orbit :)
<TristenKSP>
nuclear is 1'000x more powerful than present day rocket fuel
<Deddly>
SSTO would be a good way to test re-entry profile
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<Althego>
no, just about 2x
<Althego>
too bad in case of a launch accident huge areas would be contaminated
<Deddly>
That's a strong case for ocean-launch sites
<Althego>
it would still contanminate a huge area
<Althego>
there was a fire
<Althego>
or something
<Althego>
heh people say abort
<Althego>
maybe they can try again
<Deddly>
Looks like a successful fire
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<Althego>
he nerdle cam didnt show it
<Althego>
the other didnt see it
<TristenKSP>
It's not a crash, just an unscheduled disassembly.
<Deddly>
Lappadre + sound from the pad cam is a good como
<Deddly>
combo
<TristenKSP>
In KSP though, it would be; "It's not a crash, just an unscheduled existence eradication." Cause things cease to exist when you crash in KSP
<Deddly>
Not true. Kerbals are send to another dimension from which they eventually teleport back to KSC
<TristenKSP>
Wait, Kerbals are put in an unreachable place in the game before respawning?
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<raptop>
Deddly: of course, you could always launch Jeb on an escape trajectory out of the star system
<Deddly>
TristenKSP, Yes, they are missing for a while
<Deddly>
raptop, that would have consequences, yes
<TristenKSP>
but, isn't Kerbol's Sphere of Influence infinite? That's what it says on the KSP wiki.
<Deddly>
TristenKSP, you can still get an escape trajectory
<Althego>
kikkerikii
<Deddly>
You'll never actually escape the sun's gravity, but you can get an escape trajectory
<TristenKSP>
what how
<TristenKSP>
that doesn't make sense
<Althego>
you are on an escape trajectory but never actually escape :)
<Deddly>
TristenKSP, what that essentially means is that you're going fast enough that the gravity will never pull you back, but you'll still be within the gravity well
<TristenKSP>
oh!
<TristenKSP>
So you'll never slow down? Or it will take quite literally forever?
<Althego>
never slow down
<Althego>
your remanent speed at infinity is not zero
<Althego>
a hyyperbolic trajectory
<TristenKSP>
oh oke
<Althego>
if it goes to zero at infinigty it is a parabolic trajectory
<Deddly>
You'll never slow down ENOUGH, at least
<Althego>
and of course if it goes to zero before infinity then you are in a bound state, having elliptic trajectory
<Deddly>
TristenKSP, sounds like you need to try it and see what it looks like :)
<TristenKSP>
But, in KSP2, you'll actually be able to escape Kerbol's SOI
<Deddly>
Yes
<Althego>
and wait hundred years to get to the next star system? i wonder how the yare going to do that
<TristenKSP>
Because we will have more star systems to visit
<TristenKSP>
I'mma bout to end Althego's whole career.
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<TristenKSP>
*deep inhale*
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<TristenKSP>
time warp
<Deddly>
There are also mods that add other star systems to KSP 1
<TristenKSP>
ye
<raptop>
Althego: Do you think an owl teaching a shark japanese will go better or worse than a chicken doing the teaching did?
<TristenKSP>
hmmm
<Althego>
well, since the owl is a professional, maybe it can go better. also less shenanigans
<Althego>
or fewwer?
<TristenKSP>
I think this is a trick queston
<Deddly>
Who?
<Althego>
what?
<Deddly>
I was impersonating an owl
<TristenKSP>
:O
<raptop>
Yeah, if you don't keep up your practice, the big green owl will have Deddly consequences
<TristenKSP>
funny, laughed
<Deddly>
フクロウ
<Deddly>
Owl
<TristenKSP>
ural owl
<TristenKSP>
Me and the boys after saying "no" in spanish in an English only Discord Server
<Althego>
of course by the owl raptop meant duolingo, the shark is gura, and the chicken is kiara
<Deddly>
Ah, this makes more sense
<TristenKSP>
Is that a jojo reference
<Deddly>
Duolingo is a language-learning app. I assume the others are too
<TristenKSP>
I know
<Althego>
no, kiara is an other holoen vtuber
<Deddly>
Ah
<TristenKSP>
Me reading my notifications on my phone; Duolingo: "You missed your spanish lesson! You know what happens now." ADT: "Intruder Alert at backyard. Proceed with caution."
<Althego>
and since kiara can fluently speak 3 languages she taught gura japanese once
<Althego>
with a built in rickroll in japanese
<TristenKSP>
"Astley-chan, you'll... never give me up... w-will you?"
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<TristenKSP>
I almost broke out hysterically laughing while typing that
<Althego>
hehe, scorpion shaped chocolate with a strawberry
<TristenKSP>
what
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<jazzkutya>
is an okto pod supposed to do all kinds of sas axis in normal difficulty career game?
<jazzkutya>
also a level 1 jeb
<Deddly>
SN11 detanking
<Althego>
the basic probe thing?
<Althego>
no
<Deddly>
Well, venting
<jazzkutya>
not the most basic, this is the second one after the stayputnik
<Althego>
the okto2 though is quite advanced
<jazzkutya>
somehow in my game both jeb1 and okto can do radial, node and stuff
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<Althego>
yes it is a common bug
<raptop>
big in 1.11.1
<raptop>
*bug
<flayer>
excellent, only 20 days from my station in solar orbit back to kerbin
<Althego>
big in japan
<jazzkutya>
so it's not something like an ace pilot remote controlling it from the space center?
<raptop>
big in japan would presumably be coco (180 cm)
<Althego>
heh, that reminds me of "bikicsunáj", when a guy tried to sing big in japan, but didnt speak english, and he became an internet star for a short while with the misheard lyrics
<raptop>
jazzkutya: please ignore scott manley smuggling ansibles into the command pods
<Althego>
oh and then there is the coco and haachama despacito
<jazzkutya>
what is "ansibles"?
<Althego>
ansible is a faster than light communication device in the sci-fi novels of orson scott card
<Deddly>
jazzkutya, you could always just pretend it's an ace pilot controlling it from the space centre ;)
<Althego>
or alternatively a configuration management and deployment software
<jazzkutya>
will do for the moment, tho it's strange she/he is not showin up in the astronaut complex :)
<raptop>
(and various other authors, so it's a semi-generic term)
<Deddly>
jazzkutya, or, of course, you could pretend those features aren't there and avoid using them, if you can resist the temptation :)
<jazzkutya>
already used them and i regret nothing :)
<jazzkutya>
i would hate these lowlevel probe cores otherwise
<Althego>
honestly the okto is ok, the hecs is fine. the only one i hate is the stayputnik
<Deddly>
I'd like a tiny size 0 probe with the Stayputnik functionality
<jazzkutya>
the stayputnik seems useless without also unlocking an rcs wheel. what that also goes for the okto
<jazzkutya>
s/what/well/
<Deddly>
I think they did it that way to encourage manned flight
<umaxtu>
I also wish there were more components that could be used to offset the mass of a big coms dish
<umaxtu>
batteries don't work
<Althego>
yes batteries are quite light
<sandbox>
batteries not included
<Althego>
better start unmanned?
<umaxtu>
that and they aren't physics enabled
<Althego>
or what is the name of the mod
<umaxtu>
better then manned?
<umaxtu>
by flowerchild?
<Althego>
anyway i would like more early unmanned capability and wheels
<Deddly>
Early spaceplanes without wheels are pretty dangerous :)
<Deddly>
Kerbals invented the rocket before the wheel
<raptop>
Kerbal wheels are obviously derived from turbopumps
<Althego>
yet they have turbopumps
<raptop>
...wait, didn't they also invent reaction wheels before road wheels?
<Althego>
lol, experimental spaceplane slowly moves sideways on the runway
<Deddly>
Not really, of course. They have wheels on all the trucks doing doughnuts in the VAB.
<Althego>
oh, then it must be they didnt space rate the wheels in the beginning
<Deddly>
I guess it took Kerbals a long time to have wheels approved as safe for flight. Rockets, on the other hand, are really only useful for flight, so...
<Deddly>
Great minds think alike :)
<jazzkutya>
i see this is literally the first bug reported for 1.11.1 altho with kerbals, not probe cores
<jazzkutya>
(and later commented that probe cores are also involved)
<Deddly>
Kerbals also have the same problem?
<jazzkutya>
yup
<Deddly>
Wow. I'm surprised that one got throught
<Deddly>
through
<jazzkutya>
and i thought i ruined my gameplay expertience with just installing mechjeb (not using) :)
<Althego>
doesnt seem to happen all the time
<jazzkutya>
better take another 5 year leave from ksp maybe there will be less bugs by that time :)
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<REZDAWG>
im using PS$ im stuckk im in space i do up my nods and stuff but idk what do i push too activate my throttle on time or what do i do i get stuck at that spot cant control my ship is ther a good site or sombody could explaine plz
<REZDAWG>
ps4
<REZDAWG>
i understand about how my noods work it after i put it on do i have too press anything too get the gass going
<REZDAWG>
ill go tru your tutoral
<raptop>
noods?
<REZDAWG>
i know im saying it wrong sr
<REZDAWG>
ill figure out the words and be back soon hahha
* raptop
is mainly just trying to understand the question
<REZDAWG>
me bad English
<raptop>
Ah, afraid I only know the controls for the PC version
<jazzkutya>
it could be about jeb's noodles :)
<raptop>
You'll need to activate the throttle manually at the time listed by the maneuver node
<raptop>
jazzkutya: A delicious ramen recipe, with hydrazine added for extra spice
<REZDAWG>
wen your in space
<REZDAWG>
afte you put your line up too know were you want too go
<Deddly>
REZDAWG, can you access KSPedia in the game? It should have a list of controls
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<REZDAWG>
what buttons on ps4 do i push too get my throttle going